Arrested Iran Prisoners To Face Death Sentence [Mass Public Executions Friday]

Iranian Students for Democracy ^ | June 26, 2003 SGT | staff report

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Hundereds of those arrested in the last [Iranian] riots will be brought to speedy trials in order for the public to witness the decision of Islamic 'justice' on their cases.

Sources within the regieme are confirming the decision made in an extradordinary meeting of the National Security Council to issue and execute death penalties against many of them for 'Spying for the United States,' 'Attempts Against National Security' and 'Armed Action Intending to Overthrow the Islamic State.'

The move intends to go on by a series of public executions and to spread information on the cases of other protestors who are executed within the regieme's penitenciaries.

The Islamic Regieme hopes to increase its policy of Fear and Terror at the approach of the July 9th Student Uprising and National Labor Strike and by this way avoid mass participation in the rallies on that day.

Tens of those arrested have been placed under duress and torture in order to sign confessions on their links to the 'US Secret Services.'

These prisoners are under the special guard of the officers of the Intelligence Directorcrat of Pasdaran which is responding directly to the offices of the regieme's Supreme Leader.

[Brian Allen]

"Rome" who?

[ChadGore]

I've had enough ! I've been watching for *years* and *years* these drunk-with-power-mullahs parade their ignorance and, prostitute their dignity to the lowest form of tyrany.

These kids are the Nelson Mandella of our time (suffering in jail while a failed regime opresses from ignorance) and Tehran will be the next Tiananmen square only the victory will be on the side of the free.

Theocracy = Tyrany
Taliban out of Afghanistan in 2001
Taliban out of Iran in 2004

[A.J.Armitage]

Rome the ancient empire that started as a city-state in Italy.

Iran, AKA Persia, was around first.

If they survived Alexander the Great, I think they'll survive kicking out a few mullahs.

[Amaxen]

The tipping point occurs when some critical fraction of the army and the police no longer take the orders of the state. I've read that this is actually occuring in Iran, to the point that the regime has to import Islamist fanatics from elsewhere to form up its goon squads. That's a pretty sure sign it's tottering. Foreign goons never go over well in the native population.

[Amaxen]

Persia also kicked Rome's behind just about every time they faced off. This was Eastern Rome (i.e. Byzantium), the chunk that survived long after Western Rome fell.

[A.J.Armitage]

But Eastern Rome held out against the Muslims longer, so really Rome still had the advantage.

Ah, but is Rome still around like Persia is? That's a tough one, because after the West fell, Byzantium was basically a Greek empire. Modern Greece arguably has more in common with Byzantium than modern Persia has with pre-Islamic Persia (i.e., the same religion, ect), and certainly more than it does with ancient Greece (famous for pedophiliac philosophers).

[Amaxen]

One could argue that Eastern Rome not had Persia as a buffer, it would not have survived the Islamic conquests. Not to mention that it had a more favorable geography for defense than Persia did. I wouldn't know about the comparison between modern vs. ancient Greece and Iran. I do know that everyday Persians still read and honor some of their pre-islamic poets who wrote even earlier than Homer, and that they even retain quite a few of their pre-conquest religious festivals. There was a news story the other day about the mullahs cracking down on people celebrating a fire festival, which is itself a holdover from the pagan and Manicheanist traditions and thus a symbol of challenge to the theocratic regime.

[ThanhPhero]

it looks like they are pulling a Tianemen Square pre-emptionmaneuver here

[A.J.Armitage]

One could argue that Eastern Rome not had Persia as a buffer, it would not have survived the Islamic conquests.

Maybe. If they hadn't had all those wars, they both probably could have made it.

[Mat_Helm]

Persia and Iran are just that a blip in history and have become nothing but goat herders and camel jockies.

[A.J.Armitage]

Persia and Iran, huh? Are they next to each other? Have they ever had wars?

Don't say anything unless you have something to say.

[Amaxen]

True, I don't know enough about the reasons behind why they occasionally clashed. I think Persia had other enemies to worry about and mistakes to make, as did Byzantium. In Byzantium's case, what brought them low was their attempt to reconquer the Western Empire.

Still, the Byzantine Cataphracts were probably the best heavy cavalry in world history, except for the Persian Dhegans, whom they were a pale imitation of.

[Amaxen]

Not sure if you are joking or not. Persia is Iran. There's actually some interesting history there too. The Shah insisted on changing the name of the country from Persia to Iran as part of a campaign to reduce the influence of Islam in the affairs of the state. Iran is actually the Farsi word for Ayran, the race that the Persians believe themselves descended from. The original Shah was emphasizing the pre-conquest aspects of Iran to help loosen the grip of the Mullah over the society. Unfortunately reformers are always much more vulnerable to revolution than tyrants. Ask Gorbachev, Louis XIV, or Tsar Nicholas III

[Dec31,1999]

What's been happening in Iran is front page news, but it hasn't been making the front pages of our Liberal press, not TV. Not even the "Conservative" press. I wonder why. All I see is tiny articles about Iran testing missiles without reference to the protesters for freedom. It's frustrating!

[A.J.Armitage]

True, I don't know enough about the reasons behind why they occasionally clashed.

I think it was mostly the fact that they were two big empires next to each other.

In Byzantium's case, what brought them low was their attempt to reconquer the Western Empire.

Well, it wasn't very constructive, but remember they kept going for hundreds of years after that. One thing that's interesting is that the provinces that fell to the first wave of Muslims were mostly Arian or other heretics, while the heavily orthodox areas held out until the Turks conquered Anatolia.

[A.J.Armitage]

It was a joke. I was replying to the inannity in #110.

After the "regime change", do you think they'll stick with Iran or go back to Persia? I think Persia would be better, at least for Western consumption. "Iran" makes the man in the street think of hostages, mullahs, and fanaticism. "Persia" (if it made him think of anything at all) would make him think of ancient history, the Bible, and probably oriental decadence -- in short, tourism.