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Iraqis recount torture at Saddam's hands
Philly.com ^ | Dana Hull, Tom Lasseter and Natalie Pompilio

Posted on 06/24/2003 4:41:27 PM PDT by Gorilla44

BAGHDAD, Iraq - You can find just about anything at the Baab al Sharjee market in the center of Baghdad. Air conditioners, electric fans, radios, satellite dishes. And short videos that chronicle the torture chambers of Saddam Hussein.

One video - "Saddam's Crimes and His Followers: Mukhabarat Torturing" - shows men lying on the ground as their legs are tied to a stick in the air. They writhe in pain as military officers whip the soles of their bare feet. Another shows a grenade being strapped to the chest of a blindfolded man. A few minutes later, he's blown up.

"Thousands of people have bought them," said Taha Adnan, 16, a vendor in the market.

The world long has known that Saddam used chemical weapons against the Kurds and brutally repressed Shiite Muslims, has known of his secret police and torture chambers. But until his regime disintegrated in the face of a U.S. onslaught, it seldom heard the cries of his victims or their survivors.

Now they are starting to tell their stories.

Basima Hamid last saw her husband, Naser al Saadi, one morning in 1999. He left to visit his family, and when he arrived, the Iraqi Intelligence Service was waiting at the house and arrested him. His crime: studying to be a sheik. For years, Hamid wondered if he was alive. One of Naser's older brothers has been missing since 1982.

When Baghdad fell April 9, the family contacted the Committee of Free Iraqi Prisoners, a group founded by former prisoners. The organization has scoured documents retrieved from intelligence offices and has posted lists of thousands of names of those executed by the regime.

Hamid learned that her husband was lynched at 2 p.m. on Aug. 9, 2000, at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison. U.S. forces discovered 993 unmarked graves at the prison; her husband's body was in Number 860. The family found his bones and reburied them in Najaf, a city that's holy for Shiite Muslims.

"Please, find out all of Saddam's crimes and let the whole world know about the reality of Saddam," said Hamid, who's still wearing black mourning clothes and raising two young sons. "He is the evilest man that I ever saw."

Hamid would like to see Saddam captured and brought to a trial.

"They should cut out his tongue, cut off his ears, so that he feels pain," said Hamid, dark eyes flashing with anger. "Everything that he did to us should be done to him."

Naser Kasem was 29 when he got fed up with the Iraqi military and the beatings that came with service. So he deserted. The police picked him up at a checkpoint in Karbala.

He was dragged from a small, pitch-black concrete cell every two hours and taken to a torture room. There, he said, a man would crank up a small generator as another man got the wires ready. They shocked the bottoms of his feet and made him clutch the live wire with his hands. They poured molten plastic on his feet and pushed lit cigarettes into his flesh. They beat him with a stick and with an electrified rod.

Two hours later, he was taken back to his cell for two hours of sobbing, and then the police returned to give him some more. Then came two years in jail.

The other men in the room looked away, or down at the ground. Asked what he did when he finally got out of jail, Kasem shrugged. He went back into the military, he said. What else was there to do?

Abbas Fadel, a large, muscular man, has a picture of his brother Ali hanging from a nail in front of his small grocery store in southeast Baghdad. The inscription under Ali Fadel's face reads, "He was arrested by the criminal Saddam Hussein."

"I couldn't show it to people in the past because of the regime," Fadel said. "Now I hang it up to show respect."

Ali Fadel was arrested and then killed in 1983 - hanged in prison - for no apparent crime other than reading in a library.

Police found anti-Saddam graffiti on a wall near where Ali had been studying and rounded up more than 25 people who had been seen there that day. Someone had written, "Saddam is a coward. Saddam has no honor."

There was no proof that Ali was involved, but the police wrote in their report that he was a Shiite Muslim, and that, Abbas Fadel said, was enough. The family never got his body back, and is still making trips to mass graves in hopes of finding his bones.

Capt. John Morgan, a spokesman for the U.S. Army's V Corps, said it would be impossible to calculate the damage Saddam wrought to his people. The psychological effects, he said, will be felt for generations. Each new report of mass graves, or the revelation that athletes were tortured in a chamber under the Olympic stadium, turns his stomach.

"That is the kind of guy Saddam Hussein was. He took his Olympic athletes and if they didn't perform, he tortured them," Morgan said. "This one place where there was an olive branch to reach out to other nations, he tainted that."

Lt. Gen. David McKiernan, the former head of coalition troops in Baghdad, recently called Saddam Iraq's biggest weapon of mass destruction.

Hussein Abed Ali's only crimes were being a Shiite and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was 16 in 1991 when Iraqi police arrested him and 60 neighbors and accused them of participating in anti-Saddam uprisings. Held in captivity for 45 days, he was the only one who came home.

"We were terrified. We nearly died of fear," Ali said. "We were just waiting to be killed."

Ali can't forget the first time he saw a man murdered. Hours after he'd been arrested, a local Baath Party leader came to check on the prisoners and noticed that two of the men had been shot. He pulled out his own handgun.

"He said, 'How are these dogs still alive? They should have been dead a long time ago.' And he pulled out a pistol and he shot them both in the forehead. He enjoyed killing people," Ali said.

Ali saw men beaten to death with pipes. One man who dared ask, "Why are you doing this to me?" had his hands cut off before he was shot in the head. His torturer said, "This is how people are treated when they go against Saddam."

"I could see it in other people's eyes. They died of fear before the bullet or the pipe got them," Ali said. "I was 16 years old and afraid to die, but I was just waiting my turn."

Ali went days without eating, and learned not to trust prison food when a rare meal left a handful of other prisoners with fatal diarrhea. A so-called "investigation" into the prisoners' actions ended with at least one man crucified.

Ali was lucky: They let him go home.

"For every 100 people, they let one person go, to tell the people of the city what happened to the rest," he said.

Ali was arrested a second time a year later and held for more than two years but, again, managed to survive. He described the tortures during his second incarceration - the beatings with electrical cables, the day his feet were pounded with bats and his toenails were pulled out - in a low, matter-of-fact voice.

He's 29 now, an electrician and a volunteer at the cultural center in Musayeb, where the bodies from mass graves are counted and the families of missing persons come searching.

"I help them find the people who weren't so lucky like me," Ali said. "If it weren't for God, maybe my family would be looking for me now."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atrocities; iraqicivilians; iraqifreedom; torture
Buried at an obscure news source.
1 posted on 06/24/2003 4:41:27 PM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: Gorilla44
There, he said, a man would crank up a small generator as another man got the wires ready. They shocked the bottoms of his feet and made him clutch the live wire with his hands. They poured molten plastic on his feet and pushed lit cigarettes into his flesh.

Where's the Not in Our Name crowd now?
2 posted on 06/24/2003 4:54:01 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Gorilla44
And we thought Hitler was evil.
3 posted on 06/24/2003 4:55:18 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (huh?)
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To: Gorilla44
Yes, can't let the people know about these things, it might distract them from the bashing of our president. That wouldn't do you know.

The media absolutely sickens me, and I'm not alone. More and more people are finding out about these things and are becoming furious with our media.

4 posted on 06/24/2003 4:56:10 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Gorilla44
This is exactly why Iraq should never become an Islamic state.
5 posted on 06/24/2003 4:56:15 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: McGavin999
Does anyone suppose that Daschle or Hollywood cares an iota?
6 posted on 06/24/2003 5:03:24 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Gorilla44
Thank you for this post. These stories need to be told. I'm all for letting the NGOs and the Democrats dig the mass graves in Iraq.

Tales of Saddam's Brutality [lengthy, graphic, White House websight]

7 posted on 06/24/2003 5:55:18 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Stability operations are operations in unstable places." Dp.Ast. SOD - Stability Ops Lt. J. Collins)
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To: Gorilla44
Bump for later read
8 posted on 06/24/2003 6:00:04 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Gorilla44
We should have given the inspectors more time...../sarcasm
9 posted on 06/24/2003 6:06:58 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: lelio
Where's the Not in Our Name crowd now?

Let's be fair. The war was Not In Their Name but Saddam's torture was not done In Their Name either. </sarcasm>

You are either with state terror/torture or you are against it. There isn't much middle ground.

The only time you can morally support a monstrous dictator is when the alternative is worse. Pinochet was not as bad as the Communists who would have taken over Chile, began a campaign of mass murder, and spread their terror to all other states in the region. If there were any moderately evil dictators we allied with during WWII against the supremely evil Nazis/Japanese, that would have been justified too (I can't think of any off the top of my head but maybe there were a few).

It's not a pleasant compromise to make (getting blood all over your hands to fight a greater evil) but it's the only moral choice: standing aside with pure hands while millions are butchered is not just immoral, it is vain and gruesome.

The situation of the Finns during WWII is a bit more complicated. They had the choice of surrender to the Soviet Union (which would have been absolutely horrible for them) or allying with Hitler. They did what they had to to survive, and there is nothing evil about that.

But in general, you have to have a DAMN GOOD REASON to ally with or shield a torture state.

10 posted on 06/24/2003 10:39:48 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Gorilla44
There, he said, a man would crank up a small generator as another man got the wires ready. They shocked the bottoms of his feet and made him clutch the live wire with his hands. They poured molten plastic on his feet and pushed lit cigarettes into his flesh. They beat him with a stick and with an electrified rod

...and then you have those so called 'liberals' who can't fathom why we took these people out.

They don't sound very liberal to me...........then again, the definition of classic liberalism is much different than what presents itself as liberalism in this day and age.

11 posted on 06/24/2003 11:07:51 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: Gorilla44
Every bomb that we dropped was calculated to avoid killing those who may not be guilty of the crimes of the regime.

Every person Saddam had killed was the result of a calculation that they may have been dangerous to him. Whether or not they were 'guilty' of such things.

....and America stands convicted by such human rights luminaries as embodied by the United Nations; one will have to forgive me if I don't seem to care very much for their protestations.....because I don't.

12 posted on 06/24/2003 11:13:29 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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