Split Decision: Supreme court upholds grad policy, strikes Undergrad

MSNBC Live | 06-23-03

[Brian S]

Supreme Court rules in favor of U. of Michigan Admissions Policy

[Howlin]

It just did.

[CollegeRepublican]

bingo!

[dogbyte12]

Rush was right Bush wimped out on this one too.

Todd take it somewhere else. Bush did not order Sandra Day to vote how she apparently did. Your pathological hatred for the Commander in Chief is getting a bit dull. I suppose you are going to blame him for global warming next.

[CMClay]

"Undergrad program Admission Policy struke down."

You didn't get in either I'm guessing.

[Howlin]

They didn't have the same policy; the undergraduate program was the program that had the 20 points for being black.

Race can BE a factor but not THE factor.

[Numbers Guy]

So there is a chance that the undergrad case will fall the other direction and the admission policy will be found unconstitutional?

Damn, I nailed this one. Too bad I'm not this good on NCAA tournament pools.

As an alum of Michigan and having read the school's propaganda, I knew that the undergrad policy was far more arbitrary than the law school policy.

[tomahawk]

We now have a racial spoils system society.

Institutionalized racism.

[goldstategop]

I take it was because it used race as an exclusive criterion for admissions? The U of Michigan can use still use race in deciding who gets in but they have to weigh other factors and must use race sparingly. As I said a few moments ago, lots of ligitation is in store in the future. The lawyers are going to duke it out over to when and how far race can be considered and what sparingly means. The SCOTUS has given the country a masterpiece in legal legerdemain here.

[XJarhead]

Heh. Put down my prediction of a split decision just as it popped up here. O'Connor makes me want to retch. I'd have more respect for someone who was more liberal but at least applied some consistent principles. She's just a legislator sitting on the bench.

[sweetliberty]

What I want to know is when are they going to go after the descendants of the black slavetraders in Africa for reparations and how are they going to prevent those blacks whose ethnic roots are in Jamaica or Haiti or other non-African countries from benefitting by affirmative action since they were not slaves and when can we resurrect the offer to send these malcontents back to their utopian Africa? That offer was made once after the war and they declined. Maybe things were not so good there after all, hmmm?

[hchutch]

One out of two.

We've got to get the Senate more solidly our way, and thereby get votes for cloture.

[cinFLA]

Rush was right Bush wimped out on this one too.

You wimped out on Bush. Or are you just one of those anti-Bush libertarians that sour this forum.

[justshe]

Points system in undergrad is unconstitutional. Law school is that race CAN be a factor of consideration....there were NO points attached to the law school 'consideration'.

This makes sense to me, actually.

[xrp]

Question: Do you love someone who points a gun at your face and steals your money?

[MississippiMan]

This is why we MUST fight for all of Bush's judges.

It would help if he fought himself.

MM

[AntiGuv]

The law school took account of race as one factor amongst many - toward 'promoting' diversity; the undergrad admissions awarded a predetermined number of points to every minority applicant.

[So Cal Rocket]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

[ewing]

Good, this sounds like a victory..

[dogbyte12]

Anybody know the differences between the two policies? The 20 points for being a minority from what I have just heard was only part of the undergrad program. Are there any other differences between the two policies that would suggest the split vote?

[StatesEnemy]

Rush was right Bush wimped out on this one too.

He didn't wimp out... he did EXACTLY what he wanted to do.

The Elite in this country (of either major political stripe) have an agenda that includes importing cheap labor, expanding the power of government, and squashing ANY attempt by the American People to take back their country.

Bush is just Gore-lite