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Internet Presidential Primary Is a Modern Process With Traditional Allegations of Vote-Rigging
AP ^ | 6/19/03 | Nedra Pickler

Posted on 06/19/2003 3:33:37 PM PDT by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - More than a million Internet users will be invited to vote in a virtual Democratic primary next week, but this most modern of elections is facing age-old allegations of vote-rigging.

Howard Dean, who has built an extensive network of Internet-savvy supporters, is expected to get the most votes in the MoveOn.org primary. Organizers of the site say any advantage for the former Vermont governor is due to his appeal among their members, and not any misdeeds in their process or because one of their employees worked on his campaign.

The primary begins Tuesday and voting runs for 48 hours. If one candidate gets more than 50 percent, MoveOn.org will endorse the campaign and ask its 1.4 million members to donate. Last year, MoveOn.org members contributed $4.1 million to the congressional candidates highlighted on the site, said Wes Boyd, one of two former Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who started it five years ago.

The Democratic presidential campaigns have sent e-mail messages to their supporters, asking them to register at MoveOn.org and vote.

Officials in Dick Gephardt's campaign said they were surprised when their supporters who registered got an e-mail encouraging them to vote for Dean. Gephardt's team considered pulling out of the primary but decided to stay in with reservations.

"We are not going to change our participation at this point, but we are concerned that the process seems to be rigged," said Erik Smith, a spokesman for the presidential campaign of the Missouri lawmaker. "We think there is a legitimate role for MoveOn to organize grass-roots support for candidates, but we are worried that it appears they are playing favorites."

Boyd said everyone registered on the site got the Dean e-mail Wednesday because he finished in the top three in a poll conducted by the campaign last month. The other top finishers also got to send a message - Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry's was sent Thursday; Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich will send his Friday.

Other campaigns have written pitches that are posted on MoveOn.org, but not e-mailed to its members. The messages are a reward for finishing at the top of the poll, and the other campaigns were told that they would be sent in a memo describing the endorsement process, Boyd said.

"You want to give everyone a soap box, but different size soap boxes in a sense," Boyd said.

Still, other rival campaigns say Dean has the clear advantage. They point out that one of MoveOn.org's employees, Zack Exley, recently took a leave of absence for two weeks and two days when he was paid to work on organizing Dean's Web site.

"We're participating and we think that we've gotten a good response from our supporters but, given the group's involvement with other candidates early on, we won't be shocked to see the results go another way," said Jennifer Palmieri, spokeswoman for North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.

Dean campaign manager Joe Trippi say Exley was hired because he admires MoveOn.org's ability to organize so many activists over the web and wanted to learn about his ideas. Boyd said he would give Exley a leave if other campaigns also wanted to tap his expertise.

Trippi said Dean's rivals know they aren't going to win the primary and are only asking their supporters to vote to keep Dean from getting a majority of the votes.

"We're going to do everything we can, but I think it will be a minor miracle to get to 50 percent with all these candidates in here," he said.

AP-ES-06-19-03 1804EDT


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004election; 2004primary; agentsofduh; censureandmoveon; clintonflunkies; democrats; dirtyunderwear; dnc; dumpingpolls; dusrupters; election2004; howarddean; lovedclintonswars; morondotorg; notapeacemovement; onlinepolls; rats; virtualprimary; votefraud; voterfraud

1 posted on 06/19/2003 3:33:37 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
"...most votes in the MoveOn.org primary."

Of course it will be fixed, look who is in charge of it! LOL
2 posted on 06/19/2003 3:38:23 PM PDT by Teetop (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.)
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To: JeanS
LOL. Rush was saying today how Dean is still kicking past expectations and becoming a pain for the French looking Vietnam veteren Ketchup Boy (and Conscience of the Senate) et. al. Barring the truly unexpected, this will be one helluva Rat primary. Hehehehe....
3 posted on 06/19/2003 3:46:33 PM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: eureka!
It would be helpful for people to register and vote for Denis Kucinich....NOT Al Sharpton. Kucinich is already doing well amongst the far left...let's give him a boost. If he does well it means the dems will have to float further left to maintain their base.
4 posted on 06/19/2003 3:49:05 PM PDT by Katya
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To: Katya
Heck, be a true Rat and go in and vote twice--once for Kucinich and once for the racebaiter, er, Rev. Sharpton. ;^)
5 posted on 06/19/2003 3:51:16 PM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: eureka!
Vote early and vote often!;^}
6 posted on 06/19/2003 4:09:43 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
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To: JeanS
It's one vote per email address. They're accepting yahoo.com email addresses, which are free to set up. This "primary" will be as legitimate as an online opinion poll.
7 posted on 06/19/2003 4:33:29 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: JeanS; windchime; Wait4Truth; sarasmom; Joe Brower; 4integrity
I got emails from Bob Graham and Dick Gephardt. They were trying to get votes at moveon.org for themselves. Moveon.org is a PAC for those who don't already know that. They're based in Berkeley, CA.

Just read my emails today. What does virtual voting prove anyway? They have no stand out candidate who can dent President Bush's poll numbers. People like President Bush which surpasses party allegiance. The DNC has also forgotten about 9-11, Afghanistan and Iraq because it backfired to bash President Bush re: the war on terrorism.

In their campaigns they are fibbing about an economy which shows signs of recovery.

8 posted on 06/19/2003 4:37:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http:///www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: JeanS
Are they still pushing for "censure and move on"?

Are they still trying to censure Bill Clinton for his perjury or did they drop that issue?

Maybe they could censure President Bush for all of the things they don't like about him and move on.

Maybe they're censuring Al Sharpton for the racist things he's said in the past.

Whatever they are pushing for, I won't be visiting Moron.org anytime soon.

9 posted on 06/19/2003 4:39:26 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: floriduh voter
"We are not going to change our participation at this point, but we are concerned that the process seems to be rigged,"

Rigged=Business as Usual
10 posted on 06/19/2003 4:49:25 PM PDT by windchime
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To: JeanS
More than a million Internet users will be invited to vote in a virtual Democratic primary next week, but this most modern of elections is facing age-old allegations of vote-rigging.

Wouldn't it be a tad unusual if a Democrat election weren't rigged?

11 posted on 06/19/2003 11:00:16 PM PDT by exDemMom (W in 04)
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