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Oh, Canada! Will Canadian gay marriage stand?
National Review Online ^ | June 13, 2003 | Stanley Kurz

Posted on 06/15/2003 10:58:23 AM PDT by Torie

June 13, 2003, 10:15 a.m. Oh, Canada! Will Canadian gay marriage stand?

By Stanley Kurtz

Has Canada legalized gay marriage? Maybe. Maybe not. In any case, if Canada hasn't already legalized same-sex marriage, it will almost certainly do so soon. This week's events north of the border tell us a lot about the coming battle over gay marriage in the United States. But to understand the lessons of Canada, we've first got to figure out what's actually happening there. The answer isn't obvious.

Let's begin by reviewing the situation as it stood prior to this week's Ontario court ruling.

The Canadian federal government is responsible for defining marriage for the country as a whole. The provincial governments issue marriage licenses and tend to the specifics of marriage law, within the framework of the federal definitions. Prior to this week, several provincial courts had already ruled that, under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the federal government is obligated to permit same-sex marriage. The federal government had until June 30 to appeal those rulings to Canada's supreme court. If the federal government had decided not to appeal, gay marriage would have become official and legal in Canada by the end of this month. If the government had decided to appeal, the decision on gay marriage would have had to await an eventual supreme-court ruling.

This week's Ontario court ruling differs from the other provincial court rulings in that it authorizes immediate marriage for same-sex couples in the province. Yet, if the federal government decides to appeal the Ontario court ruling, along with all the other provincial rulings, to the supreme court, the official status of the same-sex marriages now being celebrated in Ontario could be thrown into doubt. Canadian federal Justice Minister Martin Cauchon has acknowledged that the same-sex marriages now taking place are effectively legal. But Cauchon has declined to say whether those marriages would eventually be voided if the Canadian supreme court accepted the government's appeal.

So, technically, the gay marriages now being celebrated in Ontario might later be invalidated. But in fact, that outcome is extremely unlikely. That's because the Canadian supreme court is very liberal on questions of gay rights. Even if the federal government appeals the various provincial rulings later this month, the government will almost surely lose before the supreme court. So if gay marriage isn't legal in Canada now, it will almost certainly will be legal soon.

At the moment, the federal government seems to be leaning against an appeal. Instead, the federal government is now considering passing a law permitting gay marriage, and then asking the supreme court to quickly rule on the law's constitutionality. This is a rare legal move, called a "reference." But by seeking a supreme court "reference" for a law establishing gay marriage, the federal government would simply be hoping to share some of the political blame for having changed the definition of marriage. It is a forgone conclusion that the supreme court would uphold the constitutionality of a federal gay-marriage law.

There is one other route by which gay marriage in Canada could be avoided. Either the federal government, or possibly one or several of the provinces, could invoke the Canadian constitution's "notwithstanding clause." The notwithstanding clause allows the federal government or the provinces to exempt themselves from the provisions of the Canadian Charter of Rights. The notwithstanding clause is almost never invoked. And given the federal government's talk of passing a gay-marriage law, it seems exceedingly unlikely that the federal government will invoke the notwithstanding clause to hold off gay marriage.

On the other hand, Alberta premier, Ralph Klein, has already pledged to invoke the notwithstanding clause to prevent gay marriage from being recognized in Alberta. In fact, some legal experts argue that this invocation is unnecessary, since the notwithstanding clause has already been invoked by Alberta for a 2000 amendment to the Alberta Marriage Act that defined marriage as a contract between a man and a woman.

The notwithstanding clause, and Alberta's determination to use it, might seem to create the possibility of a patchwork solution, in which some Canadian provinces have gay marriage, while others do not. But that outcome is also very unlikely. That's because, as I've already noted, the definition of marriage in Canada falls to the federal government. Provinces can only invoke the notwithstanding clause to protect provincial laws. So chances are that the Canadian supreme court will eventually overrule Alberta's attempt to invoke the notwithstanding clause.

We have now arrived at the reason why the federal government is thinking of quickly passing a law legalizing same-sex marriage. Just last week, the government was fighting the provincial court decisions legalizing gay marriage, and was very probably going to appeal them to the Canadian Supreme Court — however unlikely that appeal was to succeed. But now the federal government is facing the prospect of a province-by-province patchwork of marriage laws. And as I've argued repeatedly (see, for example, ">The Right Balance"), in a modern society, with frequent travel across state borders, a patchwork solution for marriage laws will be impossible to sustain. Seeing this, Canada's federal government officials are now saying, "We recognize that there has to be a national solution."

In sum, the dim prospects for supreme-court appeals of provincial gay-marriage decisions, combined with likely reversals of provincial invocations of the notwithstanding clause, will almost certainly lead to eventual nationalized gay marriage in Canada. In the meantime, the prospect of a chaotic, if temporary, province-by-province patchwork solution has spurred the federal government to consider immediate legislative action to nationalize gay marriage.

There are many implications in all this for the approaching wrangle over gay marriage in the United States. First, it needs to be said that gay marriage in Canada definitely does not mean that gay marriage is inevitable here in the United States. Same-sex marriages performed in Canada will have weak claims to recognition here. Holland has already had legal gay marriage for some time, and those marriages have not been recognized in the United States. And it's important to remember that much of Canada has for some time treated same-sex couples as married in all but name. In other words, something close to Vermont's civil-unions law already applies to same-sex couples in Canada. America does not share European or Canadian pacifism, and we needn't share their marriage customs either.

Yet gay marriage in Canada sends a clear warning. Although the Canadian public is almost evenly split on the issue, gay marriage has been imposed on the country by the courts. For some time, the making of social laws has effectively been removed from the hands of the Canadian public and taken over by judges, feminist bureaucrats, and rights panels. Although Canada's parliament repeatedly rejected the inclusion of gay rights in Canada's Charter of Rights, the courts have manufactured such rights nonetheless. Remarkably, one of Canada's provincial courts reversed a judge who had barred same-sex marriage by saying that he had failed "to give adequate weight to the evolution of societal views with respect to homosexuality." This was both an admission that new views were being read into the original Charter of Rights, and also a bold usurpation of legislative prerogative. Surely if "the evolution of societal views" is the determining factor, then the people ought to be allowed to express their "evolving" sentiments through their elected representatives. But in Canada, as in much of Europe, the concept of democracy is slowly being eroded by elite judges and bureaucrats.

As a Massachusetts court prepares to circumvent the state legislature and impose gay marriage on the state — and quite possibly the country — it will pay to keep the Canadian example in mind. As in Canada, American judges are usurping the role of legislators and imposing their views on the public. And as in Canada, once a single American state legalizes gay marriage, the complexities of travel and interdependence in modern society will create enormous pressure for a national solution to the gay-marriage issue. In a crisis atmosphere (thousands of gay couples flooding into Massachusetts to marry and returning to their home states to sue for recognition), the U.S. Supreme Court could easily legalize gay marriage — on equal-protection grounds and/or on several other grounds as well. Of course, Canadian courts are already forcing gay marriage on the country through the Canadian equivalent of equal-protection grounds right now.

There is, in short, only one way to prevent national gay marriage from being imposed on the United States — as it is about to be imposed on Canada — by the undemocratic decision of a state court. Passage of the proposed Federal Marriage Amendment to the U.S. Constitution — which defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman — is the only way to take marriage out of the hands of the courts and put it back into the hands of the people.

It's also worth noting that the intense political-cultural battle I've predicted will soon hit the United States is already breaking out in Canada. Sharp fissures have opened up, not simply between, but also within the various political parties over this issue. Politicians are fighting bitterly with each other behind closed doors, and are being forced to take a public stand on an issue they do not wish to pronounce upon. Couples from all over Canada and the United States are soon going to flood into Ontario (although, as noted, American law will almost surely not recognize Canadian gay marriage). The ensuing controversy over the status of Ontario marriages will be sharp. Already, the hubbub over provincial invocations of the controversial and rarely used notwithstanding clause is substantial. Again, all of this is what is stampeding the federal government (which had been fighting gay marriage until now) to pass a federal law overcoming even a temporary patchwork situation.

If, as expected, Massachusetts legalizes gay marriage sometime in the next month, the controversy may well hit at the same time that one, or even two, Supreme Court vacancies arise. That will raise the stakes on the court appointments, and will also illustrate for all to see the dangers of activist judges. Already, Massachusetts has been convulsed by gay protesters rising during Catholic Church services to hold hands, embrace, and walk out, as priests read letters opposed to gay marriage. Look for these sorts of cultural battles to spread across the entire country after Massachusetts acts. If the campaign for the Federal Marriage Amendment kicks into high gear, national gay marriage in the United States may not be in the cards. But the battle over gay marriage will be sharp and drawn out. Keep your eyes on Canada. The fight up there won't be as dramatic or intense as the one down here, yet it is surely a harbinger of things to come.

— Stanley Kurtz is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.


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1 posted on 06/15/2003 10:58:23 AM PDT by Torie
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Toronto Globe and Mail

Graham pleads with Liberals to uphold same-sex marriage

By KIM LUNMAN

With a report from Jane Taber

Thursday, June 12, 2003 - Page A1

OTTAWA -- Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham made an impassioned plea to the Liberal government yesterday to "live in the 21st century" and accept court rulings giving gay couples the right to marry.

An emotional Mr. Graham told the caucus at its weekly meeting to "be what Liberals are all about," and support lifting the ban on same-sex marriages, sources said.

Mr. Graham, whose Toronto riding includes the country's highest gay population, urged the government not to appeal Tuesday's ruling by the Ontario Court of Appeal, which makes the marriages legal for the first time in Canada.

British Columbia and Quebec courts have also found that the current law violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

"It's about time we go in the same direction as the Charter," and "act like we live in the 21st century," a source said Mr. Graham told Liberal MPs.

Sources said Mr. Graham's plea met with mixed reaction.

He told reporters later that he is "clearly in favour of same-sex marriages," but said it is up to Justice Minister Martin Cauchon to decide whether to appeal the case.

"I'm confident he'll make the right decision."

Mr. Cauchon said it was too early for the government to decide whether it would appeal the ruling.

"It's a very serious matter and important issue," he said. "What we're doing now is we're reviewing the judgment."

It's not entirely clear what the government's response will mean for the gay couples who have already been married in Ontario. "Those marriages are indeed legal for the time being," Mr. Cauchon said.

Gay-rights issues are expected to dominate the final days of the spring session of Parliament. Next week, MPs are scheduled to vote on a private member's bill by gay Vancouver MP Svend Robinson, which would include sexual orientation in hate-crimes legislation. That bill has drawn criticism from religious groups and MPs who say it could make the Bible hate literature.

Ottawa is still waiting to review a parliamentary report on the issue of same-sex marriages due this month.

The all-party justice committee of MPs is also divided on the topic. Ontario Liberal MP Derek Lee introduced a motion to be debated at a committee meeting today to give the federal government direction on how to act on the issue before its final report is completed.

"The clock is running out," Mr. Lee said. "I don't envy Mr. Cauchon. . . . We're probably as divided as Canadians are on this."

The committee has travelled across Canada and heard from 600 witnesses in response to a request by Mr. Cauchon to address the issue in light of a previous court ruling that gave the government two years to respond.

The latest court ruling is effective immediately and puts even more pressure on Ottawa to act. Mr. Cauchon has until June 30 to decide whether to appeal the B.C. court ruling to the Supreme Court of Canada.

NDP Leader Jack Layton, whose party supports same-sex marriage, urged the federal government to finally address the topic instead of leaving it up to judges.

"It's time for the Alliance, for the Liberals, for the Tories to come clean on a position for same-sex marriage. It shouldn't have to be up to couples to spend thousands of dollars going off to court when Canadians clearly support the idea they should be able to be married like anyone else."

Prime Minister Jean Chrétien was silent on the issue as he left the caucus meeting.

Liberal leadership candidates John Manley, Sheila Copps and front-runner Paul Martin have all recently expressed support for same-sex marriage. "If it's a question of rights, it's settled," Mr. Martin said while campaigning in Quebec City yesterday. He said the federal government can't prolong discrimination toward homosexual couples who want to marry. "We can't discriminate between Canadians; it's a question of rights," Mr. Martin said.

Canadians' views

939 respondents were asked whether they agreed or disagreed with gays and lesbians being allowed to marry:

                       Agree            Disagree

Newfoundland            56%                36%

PEI                     54%                39%

Nova Scotia             62%                35%

New Brunswick           52%                41%

Quebec                  58%                36%

Ontario                 52%                44%

Manitoba                58%                38%

Saskatchewan            40%                52%

Alberta                 44%                53%

British Columbia        57%                39%

Note: The missing percentages are the undecided

SOURCE: Centre for Research and Information on Canada
 

2 posted on 06/15/2003 11:06:13 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
bump

burn canada
3 posted on 06/15/2003 11:07:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Admin Moderator
Would you be so kind as to put this story under "extended news?" I neglected to do that. Thanks.
4 posted on 06/15/2003 11:23:55 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Thanks for this informative post, Torie.

The US needs to get with it and pass that Federal Marriage Amendment. I think it would pass if pressed properly. About 85% of the House and Senate supported the DOM Act of 1996. President Bush would undoubtedly sign it and it's highly likely that at least 3/4 of states would ratify it.

The nonsense of the world is reaching the point where we must make a huge statement on this. Amendments are rarely repealed, as it takes such a huge effort to undo them. It's an excellent opportunity for conservatives and moderates to come together and do something that enjoys the support of the overwhelming majority of Americans - before it's too late.

God bless America.
5 posted on 06/15/2003 1:10:36 PM PDT by No Dems 2004
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To: Torie
Yet Judicial Activism is what many propose here on a conservative forum. So much for the concept of following the due process of a free Republic.

Nothing strange with that.
6 posted on 06/15/2003 1:58:33 PM PDT by kuma
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To: No Dems 2004
I know that it has been done up so where is it in the process of the legislature? Asking if you know.
7 posted on 06/15/2003 2:00:27 PM PDT by kuma
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To: No Dems 2004
Legalization of gay marriage in Canada through judicial dikat won't be the end of the matter. The next target of radical gays will be the church and synagogue and traditional religious beliefs. It shouldn't be that difficult to complete the destruction of these institutions since most of them have been hollowed out by the forces of darkness, paganism, and political correctness. Decades of amoral liberalism in Canada have left their mark. 25 years ago the development we see unfolding before our eyes would have been utterly unthinkable. Today immorality and a race to the cultural bottom is the wave of the future.
8 posted on 06/15/2003 2:20:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Torie
Oh, what fun loving happy laws for gays, which will be able to coerce into sexual slavery young men, even if they want to straighten their lives and make a family instead of being an environmental statistic, they will have to be sued in a divorce.

Canada has great love for its men.

(Sarcasm)
9 posted on 06/15/2003 2:38:33 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Torie
Look at these polls, this is insane. "People" have lost their freaking coercion demanding minds.
10 posted on 06/15/2003 2:43:24 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
Uh huh. And do you expect people who believe in a "anything goes" frame of experience to suddenly ditch it? I'm afraid Canada is in the moral sewer. Much of the U.S is headed that way unless we fight back. And it won't be easy. The culture advocates more not less licentiousness and it'll get worse before it gets better.
11 posted on 06/15/2003 2:50:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: lavaroise
Look at these polls, this is insane. "People" have lost their freaking coercion demanding minds.

Looks like we know where in Canada their "corn belts" and "porn belts" lie. (with apologies to Michael Savage)

It seems like except for Alberta and Saskactewan, they have gone bonkers up there, it's like "Moscow on the Tundra." B-P One thing I find interesting, Canada is similar to us in many ways, they drive the same types of cars, live in the same type of houses, and do many other things we do but it seems like there is a huge gap between them and us.
12 posted on 06/15/2003 3:34:25 PM PDT by Nowhere Man
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To: Nowhere Man
Canada has been paganized. Like in Europe, the churches are mostly empty. And politicians pander to the sodomites. Its not like I'm surprised this state of affairs has come about. When even the conservatives in Canada throw in the towel, you can see how far society how dropped to the bottom. The debate now is not over whether to reverse the situation but rather where the moral bottom in Canada should be.
13 posted on 06/15/2003 4:19:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: jwalsh07
FYI. Told ya.
14 posted on 06/15/2003 4:23:12 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Nowhere Man
I suspect the US numbers are not far off from the Alberta and Sak numbers, with the margin narrowing rather rapidly in both locales.
15 posted on 06/15/2003 4:25:40 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
It's the lumberjack syndrome. They cut down trees, they wear high heels, suspendies, and a bra. They wish they'd been girlies, just like their dear papa.
16 posted on 06/15/2003 4:28:17 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
Effeminate like Cretin. Canada is now renowed as Queer Nation.
17 posted on 06/15/2003 4:30:48 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Torie
Told ya.

About judicial activism or overly strong central governments?

18 posted on 06/15/2003 6:16:45 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
About the inevitability of it all, in part due to the power of the courts, but then you saw the poll. Canada has a weaker central government by a fair amount that the US. Canada didn't have a civil war.
19 posted on 06/15/2003 6:19:02 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Canada is not possessed of a tenth amendment, the central government there issues edicts at will.

Homosexual marriage could not even pass in Vermont, you are counting your chickens way before they are hatched.

20 posted on 06/15/2003 6:21:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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