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| 6.10.03
| Gary Nolan
Posted on 06/12/2003 11:41:46 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32
What is the proper role of government? I think it is to be found in the Constitution and it doesn't include about 70% or more of what goes on today.
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posted on
06/12/2003 11:45:19 AM PDT
by
Abcdefg
To: freepatriot32
Libertarian bump. If President Bush signs an extension of the AWB, I'll be voting Libertarian too.
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posted on
06/12/2003 11:46:13 AM PDT
by
jjm2111
To: freepatriot32
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posted on
06/12/2003 11:47:47 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
To: freepatriot32
This isn't the NY Times - Op Eds should not be posted as Front Page News...
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posted on
06/12/2003 11:48:11 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Not enough words in FR taglines to adequately describe the dimensions of Hillary's thunderous thighs)
To: freepatriot32
Small-l libertarians, yeah... the LP though is a god-awful vehicle for sensible small-government policies though, and its complete inability to take a principled stand on, say, abortion, does not augur well the prospect of having a LP candidate in a serious office.
If these guys were serious, they wouldn't be wasting precious resources on a fantasy Presidential campaign, they'd be using that money to build local and regional organization and influence.
The complete lack of pragmatism in the LP is a fatal flaw. Until that is corrected, expect most serious libertarians to work through the GOP.
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posted on
06/12/2003 11:48:20 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Road Map = Road Kill)
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To: section9
Thanks, Chris... you beat me to it. Where's that "Awww geez" picture when I need it.
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:07:15 PM PDT
by
cspackler
(There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
To: thoughtomator
That's all well and good, but out here in California you've got people wanting to elect Riordan, for cripes sake! That's not what I'd call "working through the GOP."
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:11:34 PM PDT
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: freepatriot32
Libertarians are unelectable. Politicians with too many principles are unelectable or if elected become ineffective. Politicians who do best are the ones who have basic principles and can compromise on issues.
Idealistic political supporters are often misled because they fail to understand the nature of principles, issues and compronise in politics. Switching parties seldom satifies those too idealistic. It does, however, make them feel good and that they are finally making a difference - for awhile. There's nothing nice or cute in being an effective politician.
To: mvpel
I'm not familiar with Riordan... I think I heard the name a few years back, didn't he run for Governor or something in 1996?
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:25:08 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Road Map = Road Kill)
To: thoughtomator
2002 prmary which he lost.
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:27:08 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: Paleo Conservative
What's his relevance to the topic then?
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:28:52 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Road Map = Road Kill)
To: freepatriot32
I think you fail to realize something here. The Libertarians have not had the occasion to find out what concessions and compromise is necessary to, first of all get elected, as well as get vital legislation passed. It can't be all one way. The 50/50 vote split in 2000 is a perfect example of the balance that needs to be considered.
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:30:26 PM PDT
by
rj45mis
To: rj45mis
Yeah, a representative government sucks that way.
Even those I vehemently disagree with are provided equal representation under this fantastic form of government. (not sarcasm)
Compromise is not a dirty word.
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:35:13 PM PDT
by
Damocles
(sword of...)
To: freepatriot32
Gary Nolan is a candidate for the Libertarian Party nomination for president. If you'd have posted that at the beginning, I could have avoided the 'wading through the irrational sludge' of the author trying to dissemble the bloated federal budget. While I agree the government is way beyond blaoted with waste, I don't consider the 'no answers just slams' approach of Libertarians. Generalizations that don't give detailed approaches to fixing things are easy to write, but vacuous manipulations.
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:38:16 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
To: freepatriot32
I joined the Libertarians, the party with principle. Haaa!!!
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:39:41 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(Haruspex, beware.)
To: Damocles
Compromise is not a dirty word. No, but it is very often misused. Many conservative voters and "conservative" politicians don't seem to be aware of the fact that a true compromise isn't just giving the enemy less than he demands, it involves getting something as well.
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:44:27 PM PDT
by
Hot Soup
To: thoughtomator
What's his relevance to the topic then? He's a big time RINO whose wife and daughters are DemocRATS. I guess some other RINOs want him to run for governor if Davis is recalled.
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posted on
06/12/2003 12:44:59 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: freepatriot32
I do not believe that the Libertarian party is the answer but he sure hit a home run with the other part of his message. I'll guarantee you that an organization totally opposite of the National Endowments of the Arts will be ripped to shreads if Hillary is the pres. So why can't this guy do it? Atrocious!
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posted on
06/12/2003 1:00:11 PM PDT
by
Digger
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