[maxwell]

a condition in which a person feels discomfort with his or her biological sex... Homosexual activists have long argued that gender identity disorder should not be assumed to be abnormal.

Huh... Well when I feel discomfort about something, when I am physically troubled by something, like that Stoli and cheap bean burritos I had last night, I think you could pretty safely classify that as a disorder. Of the intestines in my case. Disorder, nonetheless.

psychiatrists have argued that there is little or no proof that sex with adults is necessarily harmful to minors. Indeed, they have argued that many sexually molested children later look back on their experience as positive

WTF? Those are some "learned journal articles" that I would like to see.

other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals

Ooooooo... I'm all IMPRESSED.

Any yahoo can write up anything s/he wants in a "scientific" journal. And: some journals are more scientific than others.

[mongrel]

Two things that need to be highlighted:

1. Many psychiatrists and psychologists enter their profession because they're screwed up themselves and wanting to figure things out. That's why deviancy is continually defined down.

2. This article is incredibly clever. It focuses on the pedophilia to get people enraged, but the real story is the gender identity issue. This is thesis, antithesis, synthesis in bold print. Thesis: Legitimize pedophilia. Antithesis: That's too extreme. Synthesis: Okay than we'll just legitimize a little thing like gender identity confusion. The activists are forcing the normal psychiatrists to spend their energy on the pedophilia issue, after which they'll be too tired and have spent too much capital to fight the gender identity issue. All this in cuckoo-land (San Francisco) where this stuff is normalized and the activists will be out in force.

[dsc]

"WTF? Those are some "learned journal articles" that I would like to see."

Well, sure. Often a molested child or teenager responds maladaptively to the trauma of molestation, building a structure of defenses that rests on the premise that he is "gay" and this is a good thing to be. He *has* to maintain that the molestation was a positive experience, or the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

If he ever realized that his so-called "sexual orientation" wsa nothing more than a maladaptive response to a terrible trauma, what would he be? Just somebody who had something terrible done to him and let it lead him into disordered sexual behavior.

As long as he can keep his defenses in place, he's a member of a "community," of a self-anointed elite, a morally superior soldier in the front lines of the war against repression and bigotry--I mean, "everybody knows" that "gays" are more sensitive, artistic, creative, intelligent, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Who would want to give all that up just to be a poor schmuck who suffers from same-sex attraction disorder because he was molested?

It's not surprising that many whose entire self-image centers on their homosexual behavior would in memory recast the molestation that precipitated their disorder as an "awakening," a "learning experience," as the first time they "knew what they were" and knew there were others "like them."

Nor, sadly, is it surprising that many of the nutbars who make up the APA would buy into that crap.

But "scientific journals?" Yeah, like Hustler Magazine is a religious tract.