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To: maxwell
Two things that need to be highlighted:

1. Many psychiatrists and psychologists enter their profession because they're screwed up themselves and wanting to figure things out. That's why deviancy is continually defined down.

2. This article is incredibly clever. It focuses on the pedophilia to get people enraged, but the real story is the gender identity issue. This is thesis, antithesis, synthesis in bold print. Thesis: Legitimize pedophilia. Antithesis: That's too extreme. Synthesis: Okay than we'll just legitimize a little thing like gender identity confusion. The activists are forcing the normal psychiatrists to spend their energy on the pedophilia issue, after which they'll be too tired and have spent too much capital to fight the gender identity issue. All this in cuckoo-land (San Francisco) where this stuff is normalized and the activists will be out in force.
54 posted on 06/11/2003 5:31:07 AM PDT by mongrel (white judges do get off)
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To: mongrel
Thesis: Legitimize pedophilia. Antithesis: That's too extreme. Synthesis: Okay than we'll just legitimize a little thing like gender identity confusion.

Good points, all.

Part of my problem with this sort of thing is, I am a scientist (a REAL scientist) and I find it hard to "legitimize" anything in psych., etc. as remotely "scientific". The way my mind works is, I automatically view all this hoopla as folks piddling around trying to validate their opinions (under duress of sociopolitical activism, no less). That's all this is-- a sociopolitical exercise. Nothing scientific, or even academic, about it.

Before I got all riled up about NAMBLA roaming the streets looking for whom it may devour, I reminded myself that the age-of-consent issue is one that will preclude the legalization of pedophilia, as far as the law is concerned. At least for a while. With these recent attempts by PP et al. to do away with parental consent requirements for medical procedures like teen abortions, e.g., one has to wonder, however. I am still recovering from last night's beans and Stoli but I think that for some reason, activists of all stripes are working to make children out to be autonomous in matters of sex and reproduction, two areas in which even the most mature of us have a hard time negotiating in life. Just something that has been knocking around in my head lately, trying to understand what I see as a trend...

66 posted on 06/11/2003 5:58:03 AM PDT by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: mongrel
Yes, many psychologists and psychiatrists are suffering from mental disorders themselves.
Usually Bipolar(manic depressive) or Schizophrenia.

Brings us to the corallory: It takes a nut to know a nut.
As well as: It takes a monster to know a monster.
And so on and such.
99 posted on 06/11/2003 9:16:26 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: mongrel
Exactly. Inmates are now running asylum, for 40 years or so now. Old medical textbooks are the best, if you can find them, and haven't been purged from the libraries in your area.
100 posted on 06/11/2003 9:22:21 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: mongrel
It focuses on the pedophilia to get people enraged, but the real story is the gender identity issue. This is thesis, antithesis, synthesis in bold print. Thesis: Legitimize pedophilia. Antithesis: That's too extreme. Synthesis: Okay than we'll just legitimize a little thing like gender identity confusion.

Very interesting analysis. This would be Hagel's legacy, no? I have just become acquainted with this stuff over the last 2-3 years or so.

245 posted on 06/14/2003 6:33:06 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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