[McGavin999]

So then, I guess the intelligence the CIA gave to Clinton was wrong in 1998 too? I guess the intelligence we recived from British intelligence was wrong, how about the intelligence we received from Russian and German intelligence? That wrong too?

[Jhoffa_]

Well, if dubya & friends cooked up info about Iraq, that's wrong and he should be held to account for it.

But I don't care if Iraq had WMD's or not, we still should have gone ahead with the war.

They [Iraq/Saddam/his associates] broke the deal that ended the hostilities the first time. They broke the deal, and since they broke the deal it's only logical that they should face the consequences of breaking the deal.

They broke the deal and they deserved what they got.. Period.

In fact, they should have been punished under Bill Clinton and all this Iraq stuff should have been old news already..

[Paraclete]

The bias of a news writer is usually revealed by the final thought of the story. When the final conclusion has nothing to do with the headline, I'm less than enthused about the quality of the information presented.

[Shermy]

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

If you have to proclaim your sanity, most likely it's in doubt.

[dts32041]

Sounds like these guys didn't work for the CIA, but for state department intelligence.

They look at everythiung with pink glasses as long as it some one who hates the us.

[DannyTN]

the American public were misled about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction before the war.

Apparently, the whole thing was a sham. Saddam was a really nice guy. He used to go up and barbeque with the Kurds all the time.

Those checks he used to write for the palestinian terrorists, those were for anti-terror education programs. He just couldn't understand why we kept blowing up his baby formula factories.

And those sleeper cells were just a bunch of guys trying to make a better mattress for the less fortunate.

[Reagan is King]

Hah, where were these guys when Clinton made a joke out of the CIA and ignored all their warnings? I smell some rats!

[Shermy]

"Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity"
Here's an article from them.
http://www.counterpunch.org/vips03152003.html
Members listed:
Richard Beske, San Diego
Kathleen McGrath Christison, Santa Fe
William Christison, Santa Fe Patrick Eddington, Alexandria, VA
Raymond McGovern, Arlington, VA
Steering Committee Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

And finally:

The VIPS can be reached at: vips@counterpunch.org

-----So, VIPS is a Counterpunch.org front group???

[chief911]

“You may not realise the extent of the current ferment within the intelligence community and particularly the CIA. In intelligence, there is one unpardonable sin — cooking intelligence to the recipe of high policy. There is ample indication that this has been done in Iraq.”

Haven't we been here before? Americans do not spell realize with an "S". But the article uses quotes around the sentence. Did they change it for their own readers or is it fabrictaed again?

[Endeavor]

This is horsesh*t, from the slams against Rumsfeld to the slams against Cheney.

[The Duke]

While I do personally believe that we engaged in this war illegally and immorally, it occurred to me the other day that we did, as a result, become a "major oil producing nation" - virtually overnight.

That may be so significant a development that it's worthy dirtying ourselves with a lie or two(?) Maybe the ends really does justify the means(?)

[Catalonia]

If they no longer work for the CIA how can they know the intelligence was 'cooked'?

[zip]

Public was misled, claim ex-CIA men

Note "ex-CIA". Are these klintonistas or just disgruntled "ex" employees?

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

The indignation of the CIA is laughable. These are the world's most audacious liars.

Exhibit A is the CIA "animation" created to supposedly explain the destruction of TWA Flight 800 in 1996. There is no credible pilot or aeronautical engineer who can look at the animation and say it can possibly conform to the laws of physics. That, of course, is setting aside the question of what the hell the CIA was doing in the investigation of what was supposedly an airline "accident." Under federal law, airline crashes are investigated by the National Transportation Safety Board which was basically jerked off the case by the Clinton administration.

The CIA accusing anyone of lying is a gut-buster. They have been lying their collective asses off since the agency first came into existence. They turned bald-faced lying into a profession.

The CIA missed seeing the break-up of the Soviet Union before it happened. They blew big-time on the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Some "intelligence" pros they are expressing outrage at other governmental bodies they say are lying. It's kind of like Laurel and Hardy looking down their noses at the Three Stooges and calling them "silly."

[zip]

The Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity group

I've noticed all anti Bush/anti American/anti everything groups are all "vets for peace", Academia for world peace", scientists for environmental sanity" or some such bs. In this case it's "for sanity".

Where were these wonderful truthsayers when it started coming down?????

[Tempest]

What a funny article. A bunch of FORMER CIA employees are making CLAIMS based on HEARSAY. Ohhhhh I'm convinced. . .

[trebb]

I wish they had misled us into thinking it was the French who needed to be liberated...

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Clinton Undead Haunting Pentagon

[RLK]

intelligence was “cooked” to persuade Congress to authorise the war.

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And to mislead the American people.

That's my suspicion.

[ladyinred]

The latest talking points are sweeping the planet! Think they think we don't notice they are all saying exactly the same thing? LOL
BTW: Who lied to Bill Clinton who also said Saddam had WMD?