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Disney, Michael Moore and Innocence Departed
Bush Country ^ | 05/13/03 | Paul Walfield

Posted on 05/13/2003 8:09:09 AM PDT by westgirl123

It was reported on May 11, 2003, that the folks who brought you Bambi, Snow White and Mickey, are about to unveil their new project which is sure to endear themselves to a new generation of America’s youngsters; Michael Moore bashing America and bashing President Bush.

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1 posted on 05/13/2003 8:09:10 AM PDT by westgirl123
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To: westgirl123
Well, the folks who brought us Bambi and Snow White have already been bringing us "Priest" and "Nothing Sacred." No surprise here. Disney was taken over by the sleaze artists long ago. I haven't taken my kids to a Disney film since "The Lion King," and none of them have objected, oddly enough.
2 posted on 05/13/2003 8:59:50 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: westgirl123
Disney gay days on June 3-9,2003

protect children and don't go to disney on those days.
3 posted on 05/13/2003 9:10:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
Well since I like to make sure, The first Gay Day at disney was the last time I ever considered going to Disney. Sex and Children should not mix. I figured Disney just wanted to drop the kid theme and go for a new "theme".

Protect Children, boycot Disney. Knots Berry farm is just down the road and has a lot of the old disney flavor, with out the butt-buddies.
4 posted on 05/13/2003 10:25:31 AM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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To: American in Israel
Besides, the people at Knotts Berry farm don't turn up their noses like they are doing you a favor when they sell you something.

5 posted on 05/13/2003 10:27:41 AM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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To: westgirl123
I am so freaking mad right now...I could piss fire and schitt bombs. I do not understand where did the outrage go? Where did integrity go? Why would anyone in Disney even remotley think this was good idea? Bash the President just for the hell of it? This is Disney's wide-reaching vision? Bash the President is a good thing? Even if it were Judas Clinton, I would not understand this behavior...unreal.

I wish there something more to do than to boycott and send e-mails....this is sooooo far off intelligent reasoning. I am livid right now. Whta has this country come to when it jumps onto a fringe socialist agenda?

I'm going to puke now...
6 posted on 05/13/2003 4:06:48 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: Shaka

Hit 'em where it hurts...

7 posted on 05/13/2003 4:45:15 PM PDT by whoozit
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To: Shaka
And Eisner will peddle his little anti-American propaganda piece all over the world. Won't it be great for those in the Philippines, Indonesia, France, Algeria, Libya, Malaysia, Nigeria, Somalia and Yemen to see that 9/11 was all about the President of the United States of America engaged in a money making conspiracy? Many foreigners will believe it because they hate us as it is and, hey, Disney is a big American company. They live in various states of tyranny, they will figure if it wasn't true, Disney would not be able to make this film.

Technically what Eisner & Moore are doing is not treason I guess. Morally, I have no doubt it is.

8 posted on 05/13/2003 6:43:28 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: westgirl123
We should let Disney know that they are funding the project of a racist. Moore's racist rantings should be used to force Liberals to have to defend the indefensible. Here's an article written by a black woman in England, detailing Moore's racist stupidity:

Black-On-Black Violence: There Is A Way Forward

Who would have thought that the fiery Diane Abbott, a lifelong fighter of racism, would today be calling for tougher legislation?

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

06 January 2003

I took my son to see Michael Moore live at the Roundhouse, in north London, before Christmas. The US radical and author of the best-selling book Stupid White Men was (mostly) clever, funny, angry, sharp, iconoclastic and sceptical about the lies and humbug processed by the US government and big business. Sure there were some flunked bits – you expect that, the troughs are part of the adventure, an evening with a well-worn rebel.

What we did not expect was to feel so enraged at one point that we almost walked out. It was when Moore went into a rant about how the passengers on the planes on 11 September were scaredy-cats because they were mostly white. If the passengers had included black men, he claimed, those killers, with their puny bodies and unimpressive small knives, would have been crushed by the dudes, who as we all know take no disrespect from anybody. God save us from such stupid white men, especially now, when in the US and the UK, black people's lives are being ripped to shreds by drugs, lawlessness, fear and frightful violence plus the endless circle of racism, exclusion and incarceration. This is not awesome, Mr Moore; it is a calamity, for descendants of slaves unimaginably more so.

Remember this as we mourn the murders of two young Caribbean women, victims, it is believed, of tough black men who control some streets of Birmingham and London and Manchester and who kill because they feel like it and they can. "Young, Gifted and Dead," Metropolitan Police anti-gun crime posters in 2001. They showed real pictures of young men in pools of blood. Nobody took any notice.

The maiming and killing goes on and on. Blood is freely spilled in clubs, schools, streets, shops, the privacy of a balcony and a small garden. Orchestrated feuds between gangs became more thrilling as guns took over from knives and knuckles. Michael Cabey was shot as he sat on a wall; Wayne Henry and Corey White were felled as they sat in their BMW; Godfrey Scott was shot in the neck and his flatmate Ray Samuels was found skinned and his tongue sliced off; the brother of the soul singer Mica Paris was shot dead in Croydon. In parts of London,14-year-old boys carry weapons and show them off. A black youth worker too frightened to be named tells me: "These kids are vicious. They think bullying and beating each other up is what sissies do. They talk about killing. They are kings when they kill. One even brought me a cat he had shot to show the others they are in command. They love it that everyone is afraid of them, even their own parents."

What lovely names they had, Latisha Shakespear (17) and Charlene Ellis (18), blasted away as 30 bullets were fired early on New Year's Day as they stepped out from the stuffiness of a party to get some fresh air. A picture of them taken just before the party shows them in hats and identical fluffy white jackets. A former black gang member – Scorcher, if you please – says he is sure that these victims weren't "gangsta bitches but that they were well connected and there will be reprisals for this". How reassuring on both counts. So it is OK to waste "gangsta bitches" and those who may be members of the gang who did this?

There is something distasteful, obscene even in the coverage that has followed the killings. Male journalists in mainstream papers, like Moore above, write over-excitedly about the guns, giving us pictures and prices, plus interviews with cool gang members, carrying on as if this is some Tarantino movie that has hit town. Meanwhile, decent black men and women in particular – mothers, sisters, lovers and daughters – weep and grieve as black-on-black killings rise in our inner cities, just as they have in the US.

Yes, we have massively more guns and armed crime in our society, and all races are involved. But British Caribbeans are disproportionately affected by the problem, and their numbers are small – only about 550,000. Their lives are vulnerable, for a whole raft of reasons.

Blunkett and Blair are, at last, turning their attention to this problem, too long ignored or hidden by white and black leaders. A summit is to be called in Birmingham, and there is to be a change in the law to introduce a minimum five-year sentence for anyone found with a firearm. Who would have thought that the fiery Diane Abbott, lifelong fighter of racism, would today be calling for this tougher legislation? But then she is a black woman and MP for Hackney, where she has watched the horror of spiralling black-on-black violence.

But the law alone cannot do the job. I think Abbott should head a task force to challenge the culture of confrontation, ignorance, violence, drugs, sexism and heartlessness that has corrupted young black males with their false emblems of pride and extracted respect. She is trusted more than many of the black middle-class suits who will be called upon to take charge of any initiatives.

We need the Government to nail the producers of vicious filth. Violent songs and videos sustain these men in their life choices. They feel good that they are lauded as desensitised robo-killers. And please, I simply don't accept all that liberal wash about the neutrality of art, popular culture, television and music. In December, a pitiless black gang of young men were convicted for violent car jackings. They had modelled themselves on old American gangsters, even dressing like them. The hardest gangs love So Solid Crew and the duo Oxide and Neutrino, who, of course, deny they have any real influence with such songs as "Bound for D Reload (A&E)". Neutrino has himself been shot outside a club, and three members of So Solid have been charged with carrying loaded guns. It is scandalous that the music industry and others walk away without any conscience about the harm they do or the good they could do.

Many other interconnected issues need to be examined. Afro-Caribbean men are over-represented in the mental health services, according to a new report by the Sainsbury Centre for Mental Health. There is a crisis here, and the treatment offered is inferior to that received by white patients. School exclusions and behavioural problems, too, need to be part of the analyses. Policing has gone through dramatic changes since the Lawrence report (although too many racist officers remain in place) but what can be done about the refrain that there is no trust between the police and black and Asian people? Home Office research (Paper 129, 2000) shows that now there is support for stop-and-search among all ethnic groups, as long as the police treat suspects fairly, with dignity and without racism. There will be more black men stopped in some areas where gun crime is high. To decry this as evidence only of prejudice is now unacceptable.

There is another name I would suggest to Blunkett for his summit – Jock Young, the criminologist whose book The Exclusive Society is the most compelling and convincing analysis I have seen on some of what we are witnessing. He can see the connections between Thatcherism, racism and the self-perpetuating cycles in which images and expectations of young black men have been ingested by some of them and activated to become our worst collective nightmares.

While nice liberals and career anti-racists luxuriate in denial, a community implodes.

y.alibhai-brown@independent.co.uk

9 posted on 05/13/2003 7:02:56 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Resist Leftist brainwashing)))
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To: Cicero
If they want to commit marketing suicide -- please be my guest.
10 posted on 05/13/2003 7:15:23 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: DPB101
And Eisner will peddle his little anti-American propaganda piece all over the world. Won't it be great for those in the Philippines, Indonesia, France, Algeria, Libya, Malaysia, Nigeria, Somalia and Yemen to see that 9/11 was all about the President of the United States of America engaged in a money making conspiracy? Many

This Bush -it's-all-for-money-garbage has been constantly played on the Jeff Rense(sp?) show,and with anew twist-, the real reason Rense says is all the plan of a conspiracy enjoined by Zionists who control the White House and eliminating the Palestinian peoples. Enough to make one hurl!

11 posted on 05/13/2003 8:22:18 PM PDT by Big Bopper
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To: Big Bopper
Remember when Bush was trashed for not having the number of Jews in his administration Clinton had? As I recall, the press was saying Ari didn't really count, he was only a PR flack. In early 2001, Bush hated Jews.

And now Jews run the GOP and George W. Bush. When most Jews in government are Democrats in Congress.

Go figure.

12 posted on 05/13/2003 9:27:52 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Cicero
Your point is valid and I generally agree with it. But I must disagree about the movie "Priest" being labeled "sleaze". I own a copy of it, and consider it to be an extremely intelligent and well-written drama. And it neither glorifies its topics nor bashes the church, IMO. I've seen more cases of people regaining respect for the church than losing it as a result of seeing this film.
13 posted on 05/13/2003 10:04:40 PM PDT by pupdog
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To: DPB101
Boy, for such a small percentage of people, we Jews SURE are a busy lot!
14 posted on 05/13/2003 10:06:54 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: pupdog
Mirimax's plan to release Priest on Good Friday does count as a sleazy act.
15 posted on 05/13/2003 10:47:41 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Hildy
Well, yeah. Marx, Freud, Trotsky, Kaganovich, Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, Zinoviev, Yagoda, Dershowitz, Jakub Berman, Bela Kun, Leo Pfeffer, Boris Morros, Brian Becker, Leslie Cagan, Will Seaman, Shlomo Morel, Nachman Dushanski, Rosa Luxemburg, Samuel Dickstein, Charles Schumer, Otto Herman Kahn, Carl Levin were and are a "busy lot".
16 posted on 05/13/2003 11:31:44 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: weegee
OK: that I'll agree with (I wasn't aware of that fact). There's no cause for that.

One thing to note: the movie "Priest" was originally comprised of 4 1-hour shorts for BBC. When they attracted enough critical acclaim, Mirimax purchased the rights, and it was shortened to a single 1 1/2 hour movie (not necessarily in that order, I'm still trying to learn more about the back story). So as bad as Mirimax might be, it shouldn't be taken as a reflection on the quality of this movie which wasn't originally created for them (though not implying that the BBC is a shining example of media either).

In other words, agreement on Mirimax, but I suggest this movie anyway.

17 posted on 05/13/2003 11:57:03 PM PDT by pupdog
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To: longtermmemmory
Disney was taken over by the gays about 5 years ago. They run the whole show now. That is one major reason why their movies are so lousy . . .

In 1999 I was in Glendale and happened to drop in to see a flick. The movie was filled up with Disney employees. Before the film started they were trying to 'out do' each other with their 'I'm gay and I'm ok routines.' If you have ever been in that type of social environment, you can easily imagine the gayness just oooosssiiing out. One gay was "Sooo disappointed -- because he didn't get picked to play 'Goofy' . . ."

It seem the corporate culture requires people employed in accounting or marketing to apply for temporary positions dressing as 'Mickey' or 'Goofy' for a few days. This fellow was spinning his try out as an 'almost made the role' kind of thing. Should have tried out for 'Minnie' he was just too, too femme fatal in the role.

Another tid bit: They applauded loudly when the previews ran and for the credits trailer after the film. They also were making 'catty comments' about Tom Cruise being 'So very Butch . . .' in his latest role.

19 posted on 05/14/2003 6:16:22 AM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: ex-Texan
I've been quiet in the past, when around folks sporting Disney garb, talking about seeing a Disney movie, maybe planning a trip to Disney Whirled or already been and reminising over photos; out of courtesy I did this, but no more my friends...no, from now on, I shall call them on it and shame them and spite them for they need to know and if they do know and still say it doesn't matter, they are cast out into the wilderness of my life and forever viewed with distrust and suspicion!
20 posted on 05/14/2003 6:56:20 AM PDT by battlegearboat (Mickey is a knockout drug.)
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