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SARS, Red China, and the Future
CNSNews.com ^ | April 28, 2003 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 04/28/2003 1:51:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The first cases of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome showed up in China in November of last year. Until this lethal mutating virus escaped the vast borders of that ancient nation, the response of the Communist Party was to say nothing - not even to its own people.

This tells you everything you need to know about those who rule Red China. This is not a nation that savors a free press, freedom of speech, or even what Westerners would consider a normal response to a serious internal health threat.

Not until it began to kill people in other nations did China's new Mandarins admit they had a problem. If a reporter for a Red China newspaper had written a word about SARS, he would have been jailed. China's solution has been to fire the health minister and the mayor of Beijing. Now they have a full-blown health crisis on their hands. Their first response was to protect their political grip.

From its emergence some six months ago in Guangdong Province, home to Hong Kong, SARS has rapidly spread to almost thirty other nations, infecting thousands of people and killing, as of this writing, over two hundred that we know about. China's leaders initially tried to prevent the World Health Organization from visiting.

As word began to get out, I was reading Ross Terrill's book, "The New Chinese Empire and what it means for the United States." I highly recommend this book if you want to understand both the history of China and how Mao Zedong became its emperor in the last century. He may have been called "Chairman," but he was in every way the latest in the long line of emperors who have ruled China.

Like the mutated virus called SARS, the Chinese form of Communism was a Mao mutant of Soviet Marxist-Leninist Communism. It need hardly be said that it failed in Russia and that it will fail in China. The only question is when? Until then, America had best be careful to avoid any snares the Red Chinese put in our path, and we should be sure we remain the most powerful nation militarily. And, until then, the US will have to work with the Red Chinese on common problems such as the North Koreans.

Who is China's new emperor? He is President Hu Jintao, someone virtually no one knows much about. He succeeded former President Jiang Zemin, but it is Zemin who has retained control over the military. Up to now, all power has been concentrated in the hands of whoever was in charge of the Central Party apparatus. This was the way Mao ran China and it continued under Deng Xiaoping.

Much has been said of the reforms Deng introduced after the death of Mao. There was a flowering of Red China's economy as he jettisoned much of the Communist baggage such as many State-run industries. What did not change, though, was the total commitment to the "Four Absolutes" the Party asserted. They are the socialist road, the proletarian dictatorship, the Communist Party's leadership, and Marxist-Leninism and Mao Zedong Thought. This garbage rules the lives of more than 1.2 billion Chinese and other ethnic groups under the control of Beijing.

What has not changed in China for centuries reaching back to the earliest dynasties is its autocratic tradition. Just as the emperors were the living embodiment of Heaven (unless murdered to make room for a new successor or overthrown by a new dynasty), the handful of men who run the Communist Party are above the law because they are the law.

Terrill says, "China is not on the way to capitalism; it is building a new genus of 'market socialism.'" He predicts, "This Chinese formula for prosperity under authoritarianism will be Beijing's springboard to world leadership." I respectfully disagree. By virtue of its size and huge population, China has a place among the world's great nations, but it has no place at the table in terms of human rights, the participation of citizens in the rule of their nation, free speech, freedom of the press, and the other accoutrements of a modern society.

Red China is a Potemkin village that looks modern from a distance, but it has a very shaky financial and social infrastructure. After more than seventy years in power, it took a nudge to push the Soviet Union into the ashcan of history. Red China could well be next in line.

The SARS outbreak has jumped the Great Wall of secrecy that surrounds Red China. It has let the world peer into a society that, if it opened its doors, would see its citizens flood outward to anywhere else. Chinese people want to be Chinese, but, given the choice, they would not willingly be Red Chinese.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: sars

1 posted on 04/28/2003 1:51:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
How many people have died? 300? Hardly the deadly plague it's made out to be by the hysteria hypers. I still think China's rounding up dissidents under cover of SARS.
2 posted on 04/28/2003 2:29:29 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Again, why no mention of AIDS?
3 posted on 04/28/2003 2:30:47 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: cake_crumb
>How many people have died? 300? Hardly the deadly plague it's made out to be by the hysteria hypers.

So far, SARS has killed
321
across the whole globe.

Here in the US,
284
were killed by West Nile.

Don't get sneezed on. But
also keep an eye out for
angry mosquitos...

4 posted on 04/28/2003 2:42:19 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Mao Tse Tung was not typical of most Chinese emperors, prescisely for the reason that he was a Communist and therefore worse than any emperor.

There were good emperors and bad emperors, even good dynasties and bad dynasties, but for the most part the Chinese emperors ruled in remarkably enlightened fashion, with a system based on Confucianism and an educated bureaucracy. Although it was an aristocratic system, intelligent youths could get ahead through a system of examinations.

By contrast, Mao was a brutal barbarian.
5 posted on 04/28/2003 2:47:52 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cake_crumb
I hope to God my fears are wrong, but this could be another Black Death, or another great Influenza outbreak.

By their nature, such epidemics start small but multiply by geometric progression until they reach full scale. We won't know for several more years.

So far there's evidence that it spreads easily and that it results in a death rate over 10%--which could add up to tens of millions once it really gets loose.

Sorry. As I say, I hope and pray this won't be the case.
6 posted on 04/28/2003 2:50:52 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mabelkitty
AIDS is serious enough for the people who get it, but it is nevertheless a voluntary disease. Except for a few early victims of blood transfusions, people get AIDS from taking known risks: sharing dirty needles with drug addicts or having sex with AIDS carriers.

Even though public health agencies have done everything they can, in good politically correct fashion, to ensure the spread of AIDS, it still is limited in this country almost entirely to homosexuals, heroin addicts, and a few unlucky people who have the bad luck to be married to bisexuals.

AIDS in Africa is another matter. But there, it's hard to tell whether the statistics are accurate or whether those said to be AIDS victims may be suffering from something else.

If Sars gets loose, it will be simply unavoidable. Whether or not a particular person gets it will be pure luck. Just like the plague or influenza.
7 posted on 04/28/2003 2:57:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
When Mao was leading the long march, it was noted by some of his aides that he had virtually no communist writings among the many books that traveled with him. He read, instead, from the many writings by and about the emperors.

After some comments about this, he did manage to stock his shelves with some Marx, Engels, and Lenin, but apparently he never took too much interest in them.

I think Mao was very much like a Chinese emperor and not that much of a communist theorist.
8 posted on 04/28/2003 3:03:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner (HTTP 404 - File not found)
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To: mabelkitty
Someone the other day predicted that the AIDS lobby would soon be jealous of the attention that SARS is getting and would start downplaying its threat. I agreed and soon after that found an article that quoted the French doctor who is the co-discoverer of HIV saying, basically, that any disease that leaves 95% of its victims still living (SARS) is no real threat. That's enough evidence for me to say that the politics of the AIDS lobby will soon be involved with SARS policy.
9 posted on 04/28/2003 3:06:43 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner (HTTP 404 - File not found)
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To: Cicero
If Sars gets loose, it will be simply unavoidable

Well, the WHO is making noises like they think all countries apart from China now basically has it under control.

Only a small blemish in all this joy:

Recovered sars patients are still shedding virus, long after the recovery and end of quarantine...

10 posted on 04/28/2003 4:05:42 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
Do you have a citation for your statement that active virus cells are being "shed" after recovery and quarantine?
11 posted on 04/28/2003 6:57:36 PM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: ScholarWarrior
Do you have a citation for your statement that active virus cells are being "shed" after recovery and quarantine?

Dunno how it'll pan out eventually (cell activity).

SARS - WORLDWIDE (75): DIAGNOSTIC TESTING
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International Society for Infectious Diseases


Date: Sun 27 Apr 2003
From: Julian Wei-Tze Tang 


Recovered SARS Patient Continues to Shed Virus in Stool
---------------------------------------------------
An issue that has not been discussed anywhere in ProMED-mail in 
detail (perhaps because little is known about it) is that of 
continual viral shedding by clinically recovered SARS patients. A 
colleague of mine in Singapore, who has had the SARS illness and was 
diagnosed with the SARS coronavirus by RT-PCR culture and electron 
microscopy, has informed me that SARS coronavirus RNA has continued 
to be detected in stool samples by RT-PCR, although it has not yet 
been successfully grown in culture. This continued for sometime after 
the quarantine period of 10-14 [days?] after recovery from illness 
(up to 3 weeks post-recovery).

If such is the case for most -- or even some -- of the recovered SARS 
patients, perhaps this may account for the ongoing transmission we 
are seeing in places like Singapore in household and workplace 
contacts of clinically recovered SARS patients. Perhaps the 
laboratories of the WHO collaborating network should ask for 
convalescent stool samples as well as sera to monitor and 
characterise this phenomenon.

--
Dr. Julian W. Tang MA PhD MRCP
Clinical Academic Training Fellow/ Lecturer in Virology
Department of Virology
Windeyer Building
University College London Hospitals
London W1T 4JF, UK


[The current RT-PCR tests utilize primers that amplify short 
sequences of the polymerase gene of the putative SARS coronavirus. 
These tests may do no more than detect the presence of defective 
virus in gut contents. The replication of many RNA viruses is 
accompanied by the progressive accumulation of defective interfering 
particles (the equivalent of deletion mutants), which are thought to 
be a determining factor in the self-limiting characteristics of some 
acute virus infections. The failure to isolate infectious virus from 
the patient after recovery suggests that transmission of SARS via gut 
contents post-recovery does not represent substantial risk. 
Nonetheless, it is not possible to discount this route of 
transmission of SARS virus without knowledge of the relative 
sensitivity of the cell culture employed, and Dr. Julian Tang has 
drawn attention to an important question. - Mod.CP]

[see also:
SARS - worldwide (74): etiology 20030427.1039
SARS - worldwide (73): cases 20030427.1038
SARS - worldwide (72): treatment 20030427.1037
SARS - worldwide (71): cases 20030426.1026
SARS - worldwide (70): cases 20030425.1013
SARS - worldwide (69): diagnostic testing 20030425.1015
SARS - worldwide (68): etiology 20030425.1010
SARS - worldwide (67): cases 20030424.1007
SARS - worldwide (66): cases 20030424.1006
SARS - worldwide (65): cases 20030423.0994
SARS - worldwide (62): cases 20030422.0984
SARS - worldwide (58): diagnostic testing 20030419.0958
SARS - worldwide (53): etiology 20030417.0935
SARS - worldwide (51): etiology 20030416.0925
SARS - worldwide (46): diagnostic test 20030413.0901
SARS - worldwide (42): WHO historical overview 20030411.0878
SARS - worldwide (41):overview 20030411.0876
SARS - worldwide (38): etiology 20030410.0869
SARS - Worldwide (34): etiology 20030408.0857
SARS - worldwide (13): etiology 20030327.0758
SARS - worldwide (04): etiology 20030322.0713
Severe acute respiratory syndrome - Worldwide: alert (03) 20030316.0660
Severe acute respiratory syndrome - Worldwide (02):alert  20030315.0649
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome - Worldwide      20030315.0637]
.........................cp/pg/lm


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12 posted on 04/28/2003 8:43:12 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Mao a Chinese emperor? No, he’s just a thief.

An old communist member told me that, in today’s China, there is no real communists in the Chinese Communist Party anymore. They are more money driven than the capitalists in the Great Satan of America.

Mao used the label of communism to terrify and loot the country. He told the people that no capitalists would voluntarily give up their properties, he needed a big gun to achieve that. The foolish peasants gave him the big gun. Mao looted the capitalists. When the people asked when can they share the loot. Mao turned the gun on them. When the people found out that the whole thing was just plain robbery, it was too late.

Throughout the history of the Chinese Communist Party, from Mao, Deng, Jiang to Hu, the label of communism was only used to grab power, maintain control of the people. make profit, expansionism, etc. None of them is pure communism ideology.

If there is one true communist in the CCP, it probably won’t be the biggest lie in human history.
13 posted on 04/28/2003 9:18:43 PM PDT by FreepForever (China is the hub of all evil)
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To: Cachelot
>SARS coronavirus RNA has continued to be detected in stool samples

Yes, but, Canada
researchers discovered that
lots of their patients

tested negative
for "SARS coronavirus."
Coronavirus

may be some kind of
artifact that latches on
to many sick folk...

14 posted on 04/29/2003 7:12:48 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Cachelot
>"The replication of many RNA viruses is accompanied by the progressive accumulation of defective interfering particles (the equivalent of deletion mutants), which are thought to be a determining factor in the self-limiting characteristics of some acute virus infections."

I looked up the phrase
"deletion mutants" and found
an article on

hepatitis in
woodchucks [!]. I can't say I know
what all the stuff means,

but it seems to me
finding "deletion mutants"
is a "signal" that

the living virus
is still alive and working
in the host body.

(If the active cause
of SARS does turn out to be
coronavirus,

then this article
seems more frightening than its
post-script would admit.)

15 posted on 04/29/2003 7:30:03 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss
seems more frightening than its

Everything about sars is more frigthening than anyone is willing to admit. Look for further development in Vietnam.

So good for the cretinous Canadians that WHO has lifted the Toronto travel advisory. Now the insane little creeps will be free to spread their misfortune far and wide.

16 posted on 04/29/2003 12:20:22 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: theFIRMbss
I have not read anything that says the people who recover are virus-free, have you?
17 posted on 04/29/2003 12:31:28 PM PDT by riri
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To: theFIRMbss
lots of their patients tested negative

Yes - 60%. So there are a few possibilities here:

1. The coronavirus is something the victims already had when they got sick. If so, the infective agent seems able to actually start a mutation in the already present coronavirus, which is scary as all h*ll. And if the mutated coronavirus is able to infect another victim with sars, that may tell you that the infective agent is basically unseen but able to hitch a ride in the coronavirus.

2. The coronavirus is really the infective agent, but is mutating so fast and to such a degree that it's not obvious as coronavirus in the cases where it's not found.

3. Sars and corona has nothing to do with each other, basically leaving the coronavirus as not an artifact of the sars infection or even influenced by it - just pure coincidence. That would mean that no one has the slightest idea what causes sars, and that every diagnostic lead being followed is worthless.

Oh, and sars has nothing to do with flu. The most deadly flu known to date - the spanish - had a mortality rate of something over 2%. Sars, in the most optimistic scenarios, stands at the double, realistic scenarios gives us around 10%, and worst case (but highly believable) would fall anywhere between 70 - 90%.

18 posted on 04/29/2003 12:36:57 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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