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1 posted on 04/27/2003 12:54:51 PM PDT by ATCNavyRetiree
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
This violence will continue till we take guns out of the hands of children...er...regular citizens...er....cops...er... ban all guns!

/sarcasm
2 posted on 04/27/2003 1:03:12 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
Kids with parents at war are at a distinct disadvantage in life, and now with their parents dead, perhaps it will get worse, but with luck perhaps they will find a new life with people who love them more than they love to hate each other.

Every single person who is the son or daughter of parents at war knows the incredible pain these people bring to every aspect of life.

And anyone who is the product of a "happy" family will NEVER understand.
4 posted on 04/27/2003 1:07:35 PM PDT by FirstTomato (Always remember you are unique. Just like everyone else.)
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We need to ban Police Chiefs.....
5 posted on 04/27/2003 1:08:18 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Arby's says no more Horsey Sauce for Scott Ritter !!!!)
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We obviously do not know the truth of everything that happened, but I wonder if he might have been pushed over the edge by the knowledge that if his wife prevailed in court, his career would be over.

There is a strong bias in favor of women in these cases, and it is clear from the article that he knew it.

Nothing justifies his actions, but I just wonder. I knew a man in somewhat simular circumstances whose family was being destroyed. It appeared that he and his wife were whistle blowers, and the county attorney was using the Lautenberg law to destroy them.

His wife made the stupendous mistake of calling the police, (probably had watched too much TV) apparently to intimidate her husband after an argument. Once the police were called, it was totally out of her hands. The attorney for the husband believed that the wife was threatened with the loss of her children if she didn't come up with the desired statements to convict the husband. The wife was pressured into requesting a restraining order (she was a Mexican national). With the restraining order, the husband had no where to live, and no communications with the wife. The prosecutor's office kept asking for delay after delay, which had the effect of gradually eroding the funds the husband had borrowed from his parents for his defense. It was a very bad scene.

So, I just wonder.

6 posted on 04/27/2003 1:13:16 PM PDT by marktwain
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"I think that people are saddened it got to that stage and unhappy that it happened here, and unhappy that it happened at all."

He thinks. Doesn't sound to me like he thinks much at all. That wussy, PC statement makes me sick.

Restratinging orders are useless anyway. You're more likely to be dead long before the police respond. And when the plaintiff is the police chief...forget it.

I pray she pulls through.

9 posted on 04/27/2003 1:17:13 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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And another thing : is there something wrong with the water supply around the Tacoma area? Where was Rachael Corrie from?
11 posted on 04/27/2003 1:21:37 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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The victims were the chief of the Tacoma Police Department and his wife.

The police chief was not a "victim" of this shooting.
14 posted on 04/27/2003 1:29:54 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
I thought restraining orders jinxed any type of firearm possesion?

I guess you have to be a cop.

You get to point the gun at your wife, keep the gun, and keep your job as police chief.

25 posted on 04/27/2003 1:52:47 PM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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the end for him (chief)
29 posted on 04/27/2003 2:04:53 PM PDT by Walnut
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A cop would not lie to the court, would he?????
39 posted on 04/27/2003 2:18:57 PM PDT by cynicom
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Doesn't WA State already have some of the strictest gun-control laws anywhere? People in WA State believe in confiscation of "dangerous" firearms, except for some in the Spokane area, which is very isolated from the population center on the West Coast.
40 posted on 04/27/2003 2:19:02 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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refusing to let her use their credit card without permission and checking her car's odometer to monitor trips to the grocery store.

How did this pyscho become police chief?

98 posted on 04/27/2003 3:06:38 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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My first husband was physically abusive. In the beginning it was an occasional shove which escalated to him pushing me into broken mirror glass when I was 7 months pregnant and unable to work (due to medical complications).

When my son was 2 months old he beat the hell out of me one night in the parking lot, all the while being egged on by his friends. At the time I wasn't working because I elected to stay home and nurse our baby.

The final straw was the night he came home at midnight and decided it would be a good idea to throw a hot frying pan of grease at me, come storming out of the kitchen and punch my face over and over again. (I suffered hearing loss in my left ear because he hit me hard enough to damage my hearing) When that didn't satisfy his rage, he started kicking the coffee table. My son witnessed it all and he was only 18 months of age. I remember him screaming because daddy was hurting mommmy. THAT WAS THE NIGHT I LEFT FOR GOOD!

I walked in my night gown to the nearest pay phone and called my Dad to come get me, which he did. The next day my Dad wanted me to go back in order to work it out...of course my Dad would beat me every Sunday after church from the time I was 9 til I was 13. At age 13 I rebelled and kicked him in the ba!!s because I'd had enough. Dad didn't hit me again until my Mother died when I was 3 weeks away from graduating from high school. I left that day and stayed at my boyfriend's parents house. Never went back to my Dad's house either.

Did I mention my Dad was a staunch republican and Christian (a deacon at the largest church in Houston)?

My son is now 26 years old so all of this happened years ago. Back then there weren't shelters for abused women and domestic violence wasn't something the cops paid any attention to.

TELL ME HOW THIS WAS MY FAULT. TELL ME I DESERVED TO BE SHOT. TELL ME HOW MY HUSBAND WAS THE VICTIM.

BTW I never wanted to kill the s.o.b., my little fantasy was to tie him to a chair and beat him just enough to show him how it felt to be helpless.

I am disheartened and amazed by the people responding to this thread who say she deserved what she got.

Yep, she deserved to be shot and her kids will understand one day why! /sarcasm

Oh, and I didn't file for divorce until after the last incident. So, it wasn't the lawyers or what he stood to lose.
139 posted on 04/27/2003 4:59:24 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (I miss Texas)
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153 posted on 04/27/2003 5:49:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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well since they didn't shout out that he was an elected republican I guess we know that he is a democrat. Doesn't surprise me.
211 posted on 04/28/2003 6:02:10 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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Citizens need personal firearms to protect themselves from suicidal thugs like this.

It's too bad Crystal Brame and the bystanders around her didn't have theirs handy.

-archy-/-

218 posted on 04/28/2003 7:28:10 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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A senseless waist of human life.
255 posted on 04/28/2003 4:19:42 PM PDT by b4its2late (I don't mind the rat race, but I could do with a little more cheese.)
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Make that waste.
256 posted on 04/28/2003 4:20:06 PM PDT by b4its2late (I don't mind the rat race, but I could do with a little more cheese.)
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