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Shuttle Doomed at Takeoff - Telltale Heat Spike Was Recorded After Debris Strike
ABC News ^ | April 18, 2003 | Lisa Stark and Gina Treadgold

Posted on 04/19/2003 5:02:48 AM PDT by jpthomas

— Investigators now have the strongest evidence yet that the space shuttle Columbia's left wing was critically punctured during liftoff, when falling debris started the fatal chain of events that led to the breakup of the shuttle when it re-entered Earth's atmosphere, ABCNEWS has learned.

The evidence comes from an old magnetic tape recorder that is part of the Orbiter Experiment Support System, sources said.

It shows an unusual temperature increase in a key sensor just behind the leading edge of the left wing near the spot where foam that fell from the shuttle's external fuel tank is suspected of striking the shuttle, just 81 seconds into the flight.

The temperature spike happens within the next 40 seconds. Usually during this phase of flight, the temperature would be decreasing or holding steady, sources said.

"All the evidence is pointing there," a knowledgeable source told ABCNEWS. "It's kind of like the lady in California. Everybody knows it's her, but they just can't officially say it yet." The data comes from a temperature sensor behind the front spar of the left wing near a shuttle's protective thermal panels known as reinforced carbon carbon panels, or RCC. These panels are supposed to protect the shuttle from the heat of re-entry.

Investigators say it was a breach in the left wing near the leading edge that led to the breakup of Columbia on Feb. 1 when it plunged back into the Earth's atmosphere at more than 20,000 mph. All seven astronauts on board perished.

The Columbia Accident Investigation Board is still trying to piece together the puzzle of the shuttle disaster — but they have already recommended that NASA do a much better job of inspecting RCC panels for any weaknesses prior to liftoff.

The board is concerned that as the shuttle fleet ages, the RCC panels may be more susceptible to failure — and that Columbia's age may have been a factor in the shuttle accident. Columbia flew its first mission in 1981, making it the oldest shuttle in the fleet. ,p> The board will hear from more experts at another public hearing next week. Members will start to write their report at the end of May and hope to issue it sometime in June.

None of the information from the recorder could have helped save the doomed shuttle. It was not available to ground control at launch, and controllers would not have noticed the spike until the shuttle landed and, weeks later, analyzed the data.

And even if they had known, it is open to debate what could have been done.

"If they suspected the damage, could they have done something? Probably not," a source said. "But you never want to say there was nothing that could have been done, because you never know what 1,000 people all working on one problem might come up with."


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KEYWORDS: caib; columbia; doomed; heatspike; insulation; investigation; shuttle
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This heat spike during ascent in close temporal and spatial proximity to the insulation strike is the smoking gun that confirms that the foam impact caused the fatal breach in the shuttle's thermal protection system.
1 posted on 04/19/2003 5:02:48 AM PDT by jpthomas
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I love all the so-called NASA experts originally saying the insulation was absolutely NOT the cause.

The foam was another Clinton evil: the properly working, correct original foam insulation was not "environmentally friendly" enough and was ordered replaced by that disgusting corrupt Clinton EPA director.

Gee, I wonder if the Old Media is going to follow up on this story?

2 posted on 04/19/2003 5:13:21 AM PDT by friendly
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To: jpthomas
If they suspected the damage, could they have done something? Probably not," a source said. "But you never want to say there was nothing that could have been done, because you never know what 1,000 people all working on one problem might come up with."

Yeah, heaven forfend they might be honest with the astronauts about what they might face coming home...

3 posted on 04/19/2003 5:15:05 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: jpthomas
From Newsmax.com

Tuesday, Feb. 4, 2003

Clinton Environmental Policy Sabotaged the Shuttle

Thank fussy "environmentalists" from the Clinton administration for the substandard but politically correct foam that NASA thinks caused the Columbia disaster.

"NASA engineers have known for at least five years that insulating foam could peel off the space shuttle's external fuel tanks and damage the vital heat-protecting tiles that the space agency says were the likely 'root cause' of Saturday's shuttle disaster," the left-of-center Philadelphia Inquirer noted today in an article by Knight Ridder News Service.

So why was such a crummy substance used in such a crucial capacity, with the lives of seven astronauts at stake? Because "environmentalists" fretting about their theory of human-caused "global warming" wanted to use it.

In a 1997 report, NASA mechanical systems engineer Greg Katnik "noted that the 1997 mission, STS-87, was the first to use a new method of 'foaming' the tanks, one designed to address NASA's goal of using environmentally friendly products. The shift came as the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency was ordering many industries to phase out the use of Freon, an aerosol propellant linked to ozone depletion and global warming," Knight Ridder reported.

Insulation is sprayed on the shuttle's tanks to keep the super-cooled hydrogen and oxygen fuels at the correct temperature.

(Excerpt) See: http://www.newsmax.com/archive/print.shtml?a=2003/2/4/174925

4 posted on 04/19/2003 5:18:43 AM PDT by friendly
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To: friendly
Who would have guessed that the last seven Clinton murders would have been so spectacular?
5 posted on 04/19/2003 5:29:27 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: mewzilla
Aactually NASA has officially contradicted the "nothing could be done" line already: They claimed to be able to rush another shuttle to launch.

Another real possibility was the Soyuz that was ready to go to the ISS.
6 posted on 04/19/2003 5:29:47 AM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
But notice that the But nothing could be done line is still trotted out by NASA (the unnamed source) whenever more stuff hits the fan.
7 posted on 04/19/2003 5:33:06 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: friendly
Thank fussy "environmentalists" from the Clinton administration for the substandard but politically correct foam that NASA thinks caused the Columbia disaster.

"NASA engineers have known for at least five years that insulating foam could peel off the space shuttle's external fuel tanks and damage the vital heat-protecting tiles that the space agency says were the likely 'root cause' of Saturday's shuttle disaster," the left-of-center Philadelphia Inquirer noted today in an article by Knight Ridder News Service.

So why was such a crummy substance used in such a crucial capacity, with the lives of seven astronauts at stake? Because "environmentalists" fretting about their theory of human-caused "global warming" wanted to use it.

clinton Legacy Bump!

8 posted on 04/19/2003 5:40:24 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: F-117A; brityank; bonesmccoy; XBob
fyi
9 posted on 04/19/2003 5:53:07 AM PDT by bribriagain
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To: friendly
Old Media

How about "Dead End Media" to borrow a Rummy GWII image concerning doomed regime adherents?

HF

10 posted on 04/19/2003 6:03:02 AM PDT by holden
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To: friendly
The foam was another Clinton evil: the properly working, correct original foam insulation was not "environmentally friendly" enough and was ordered replaced by that disgusting corrupt Clinton EPA director.

Does anybody know the difference in performance of the two different types of foam?

Also, I remember one report from the Challenger disaster that said the O-ring burn-through started to appear after the EPA made NASA discontinue using an insulating putty that contained asbestos. The O-rings sit in the middle of a putty-filled recess. They started having problems with some of the rings scorched, or partially-burned, when they switched putties. Add the combination of cold weather, making the O-rings stiffer and weaker, and disaster finally happened.

But better to lose tens of billions of dollars, 14 lives, and much of the future of the manned space program, than question the sacred EPA.

11 posted on 04/19/2003 6:04:40 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: 300winmag
It is clear that environmentalists have killed many more Americans that all of the nuclear power plants and all of the DDT in the country combined.
12 posted on 04/19/2003 6:17:33 AM PDT by Tom D.
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To: jpthomas
This heat spike during ascent in close temporal and spatial proximity to the insulation strike is the smoking gun that confirms that the foam impact caused the fatal breach in the shuttle's thermal protection system.

The only hope would have been to abort the flight right then.

13 posted on 04/19/2003 6:47:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: The Duke
Who would have guessed that the last seven Clinton murders would have been so spectacular?

You nailed it Duke. Legacy murders, along with the 3000+ Bill and Hillary murdered at the WTC attack.

14 posted on 04/19/2003 6:56:12 AM PDT by friendly
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To: bribriagain
thanks for the bump.

The other thread picked up this story and I've sent you a bump in that thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/896280/posts
15 posted on 04/19/2003 7:21:59 AM PDT by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: leadpenny
Ping!
16 posted on 04/19/2003 7:26:11 AM PDT by Springman
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To: friendly
I love all the so-called NASA experts originally saying the insulation was absolutely NOT the cause.

No one in NASA ever said such a thing. Prove your assertion by providing a direct quote.

And by the way, it was NASA who found data about the temperature spike. So your conspiracy theories are just plain nutty.

17 posted on 04/19/2003 8:15:21 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Sigh, don't you read anything, or follow the news? I resent having to waste my time on a Google search to enlighten the uninformed, but here is item number one of a vast number of Google references:

NASA: Foam still under consideration as cause of disaster


By The Associated Press
Friday, February 7, 2003

SPACE CENTER, Houston (AP) — A day after all but ruling it out as a leading cause, NASA said Thursday that investigators are still considering whether a piece of insulating foam that struck Columbia's wing during liftoff was enough to bring down the shuttle.
(excerpt)
18 posted on 04/19/2003 9:15:10 AM PDT by friendly
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To: friendly
Ha ha. That's not a quote of any NASA individual, that is a quote of an AP copy writer. That's like showing a copy of an AP newswire on the "quagmire" in Iraq.
19 posted on 04/19/2003 10:59:33 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Springman
Thanks for the ping. Do you think the Columbia investigation will take longer than the Challenger investigation?
20 posted on 04/20/2003 3:43:08 AM PDT by leadpenny (OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM)
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