Russia's weapons stockpile: Time to secure it

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 4/13/03

[Jean S]

The evil regime of Saddam Hussein quickly is being dispatched. Any weapons of mass destruction

[green team 1999]

and their biological weapons lab is still open,in fact the russians were using money that nasa (not knowing was used for other purpose)gave to the russians during the clinton years(gore help to the russians).

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[green team 1999]

nuclear dangers beyond iraq

[green team 1999]

too many dangers out there that was not taken care for eight years!

[Brian Allen]

<< and their biological weapons lab is still open,in fact the russians were using money that nasa [not knowing was used for other purpose] gave to the russians during the clinton years [gore help to the russians] >>

You are much too kind to the endemically self-serving who comprise the systemically-corrupt nasa.

Those creeps just don't care what the every-bit-as-abjectly-corrupt russians -- many of whom live in mansions built with the confiscated wealth of America's long suffering Taxpayers -- do with the nasa-squandered money.

Just so long as it keeps nasa's otherwise deservedly unemployed looking "busy."

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This article is rather myopic in a number of ways! The most overt example of this is how it says that Russia's weapons stockpile should be secured. A simple statement ....easy to understand since it is totally straightforward!

But the billion dollar question is this: How exactly is that going to be done? By sending in M1A2 Abrams tanks into Moscow like was done in Baghdad? By sending B-2 bombers to drop multiple JDAMs on hub points? Maybe by sending a couple of carrier groups to engage all viable targets?

Or maybe by threatening to nuke the Ruskies unless they cede their WMDs to us?

Well .....one little factor seems to have been ignored by whoever penned that article. Russia is the only nation in the world that has the capability to make the United States cease to exist as an efficable nation-state ......and it can do this in 35 minutes (although i believe the new Topol-M ICBMs can cut down that time by around 6 minutes).

And yes .....we also have the capability to wipe them out too, however we would also bite the bullet at the same time. And yes, they know that if they attacked us they would also disappear, but again the rules of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) apply.

Now, maybe the person who penned the article asusmes that Russia will let American troops storm into its weapon facilities and destroy its nuke options ....and do nothing!

Who knows .....maybe the author also left some chocolotae easter eggs for the tooth fairy tonight!

Russia is no longer the USSR .....its military mass is significantly leaner. However that mass is becoming more professional by the year (as compared to the era of soviet conscripts), and although many are quick to comment on 'decaying' ex-Soviet ships and missiles it seems no one wants to comment on the billions (where the money comes from is a joke most would nto laugh at) being poured into advanced attack systems like the Topol-M ICBM.

And even without all of that Russia still has thousands of nuclear weapons ....and all can be re-programmed in a couple of minutes to target key targets in the US and its allies.

Now ......what do you think if suddenly the Russian Rocket Forces (who oversee its nuke forces) were to detect an american army heading for it? Maybe they may decide to lay down their weapons and start looting shops like the Iraqis were doing. Or maybe, just maybe, they may decide that they shall go out with a bang ....and take us out with them.

I personally think the author is confusing Russia with some nation like Iraq.

Russia may appear weaker ....but it is not weak. There is a big difference between the words weaker and weak. And cornering the Russians may be tantamount to cornering a rabid bear ......not nice.

But hey ....maybe the tooth fairy will turn all the Russian nukes into borscht and country-gravy!

[Pearls Before Swine]

RE your post 10:

You are right about the residual and strategic strength of Russia. I think, for the moment, our goal should be to make life very painful for proxy states. In other words, we should make the transfer, potential use, and god forbid, actual use, of WMD capabilities by proxies very unhealthy. That way, Russia and China cannot pretend to befriend us while attacking us, and would have to declare their opposition directly. They would not be able to gain the benefits of trade, weapons "control" payments, and the like, while still threatening us through countries like Syria, NK, Iraq (well, not anymore), Iran, and non-state resident terror groups.

Other than that policy, I'm a bit stumped on strategy. We can't go into Russia and China and make them sane and non-WMD possessing. MAD still exists.