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SHUTTING UP PROTEST: THE COWARD'S WAY OUT (Steamin' Pile Alert)
Philly Daily News ^ | 4/8/2003 | Mark Alan Hughes

Posted on 04/08/2003 8:33:44 AM PDT by dirtboy

PEOPLE HAVE a right to say or write that anti-war protesters should be silent or leave the country.

But people who write or say such things are cowards - indeed, the only cowardly Americans to be found these days.

There are three ways of thinking about protest: legal, political and social.

The legal considerations weigh the risk of speech against the right to speech. The famous rule is that of Justice Holmes: free speech protections do not extend to those who shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

The cowards try to draw an analogy between this consideration and our national security: the protesters are undermining our ability to prosecute the war.

The cowards are so effete and self-centered that they equate the battle of ideas with the battle of Baghdad. But unlike real soldiers, the cowards want to win by fiat rather than combat.

But there is simply no reason to believe, or evidence to show, that protest is a form of sabotage. And until the cowards repeal the First Amendment, the burden of proof is on them. The right to speech is more important than the risk of speech.

The political considerations weigh the strength of a system with dissent against a system without it. Our liberal democracy is built on the foundation of consent: government of, by and for the people. But the consent of the governed simply does not exist without the possibility of dissent. And we're only sure about that possibility when someone is actually dissenting.

I have a narrowly defined position in support of the coalition invasion of Iraq. But I'm relieved to see the large and sustained protests against the war: It assures me that America is still occupied by Americans.

The cowards, on the other hand, continue to call for a deferential silence that is the chorus of tyranny not liberty. Their politics of lock-step silence, of talk-radio ditto-heading is a system that can't withstand dissent because they're afraid to argue.

The social considerations are less grandiose than the legal or political. But they also go further to explain why any American would ever call for silence or exile.

Back in 1970, a guy named Richard Sennett wrote a book called "The Uses of Disorder." He argues that excessively ordered communities (think suburbs) stunt the growth of adults, leaving them in a permanent adolescence. Because they never confront a disorderly environment (think cities), they never learn to deal with confrontation.

They go from nice to wigged out because they never learn the range of appropriate responses that disorder demands.

The cowards are these people. They cannot deal with the honest confrontation of different opinions (and how about race, class and religion?) Because of their condition, which I'm calling cowardice but is really a disability, the only solution they can imagine is for the protesters to shut up.

Some of the cowards say they want nothing more than the protesters to get out of the intersection at five o'clock so that the commute back to their excessively ordered communities doesn't go from 33 to 39 minutes.

Do people have a right to immunize themselves from protest? Yes, just like they have a right to engage in a variety of other unhealthy lifestyles. But there are limits. We only have so much public space, and every now and then it must be shared between protesters and commuters.

Exercising your First Amendment right has just as much claim on the intersection as turning right on red.

The real problem is we don't speak enough. For or against the war, speak up and disagree with each other. The only cowards are the ones who call for silence.

Mark Alan Hughes teaches at Penn's Robert A. Fox Leadership Program. Flame him at mahughes@sas.upenn.edu. Enjoy past columns at www.mahughes.org.


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Hoo, doggie! Talk about making up into down and right into left. Have at it, folks.
1 posted on 04/08/2003 8:33:44 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
This is kinda like yelling "Fool" in a crowded theater.
2 posted on 04/08/2003 8:36:44 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Again, protestors have NO RIGHT TO BE HEARD, only a freedom to speak.)
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Jeez, he's a university professor no less. Critical thinking apparently beyond the grasp of these guys. If I had a kid there, I'd ask for my money back.
3 posted on 04/08/2003 8:41:57 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: dirtboy
The cowards, on the other hand, continue to call for a deferential silence that is the chorus of tyranny not liberty. Their politics of lock-step silence, of talk-radio ditto-heading is a system that can't withstand dissent because they're afraid to argue.


Like the idiot on Hannity and Colmes last night who just talked over every question and yelled his opinion when asked why he joined the armed forces if he would not fight?
The problem is that the peaceniks HAVE no facts, only emotions. When the facts are presented, they yell louder.
Let anyone of them call me. I can yell louder and can present the facts.
Want to protest? Yes it's your right. Want to have a discusion, you have to listen as well.
4 posted on 04/08/2003 8:42:21 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray & fast for our troops this lent)
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"honest confrontation"? you mean like breaking the law and throwing bolts at police officers and breaking windows and tashing anything in sight? I believe the right is that of peaceable assembly and to seek redress not to act like a spoiled child having a temper tantrum....bleeech
5 posted on 04/08/2003 8:42:35 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Their politics of lock-step silence, of talk-radio ditto-heading is a system that can't withstand dissent because they're afraid to argue.
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First of all, who's telling them to shut up? The more they speak the more they define themselves as idiots. As for being afraid to argue- the term should be debate but they always turn it into an arguement, and he's right, who wants to just argue with a bunch of dimwits all the time.

6 posted on 04/08/2003 8:43:34 AM PDT by fml (freedom begins with W!)
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To: dirtboy
Some of the cowards say they want nothing more than the protesters to get out of the intersection at five o'clock so that the commute back to their excessively ordered communities doesn't go from 33 to 39 minutes.

Do people have a right to immunize themselves from protest? Yes, just like they have a right to engage in a variety of other unhealthy lifestyles. But there are limits. We only have so much public space, and every now and then it must be shared between protesters and commuters.

Exercising your First Amendment right has just as much claim on the intersection as turning right on red.

There is a First Amendment right to block traffic? I've got an idea, let's go into a very left-wing area, and block traffic for a gun rights protest. That will make their heads explode, if the limosine liberals can't get back to their mansions...

7 posted on 04/08/2003 8:45:08 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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"But there is simply no reason to believe, or evidence to show, that protest is a form of sabotage."

Uh-huh, sure, Buckwheat. Just like overturning cars, breaking windows and throwing acid in the faces of non-dissenters is any form of sabotage either, I suppose.

Guys like this better watch out or non-dissenters may just "dissent" all over his scroungy bod!

8 posted on 04/08/2003 8:47:43 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: dirtboy
"Steamin' Pile Alert"


9 posted on 04/08/2003 8:47:57 AM PDT by ASA Vet ("Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know." (I'm in the 2nd group.))
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Exercising your First Amendment right has just as much claim on the intersection as turning right on red.

This is such an obvious non sequitur that this "professor" should be ashamed.

Roads are made for transportation, not as podiums, of which there are plenty.

10 posted on 04/08/2003 8:48:03 AM PDT by jimt (Support our troops !)
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"Like the idiot on Hannity and Colmes last night who just talked over every question and yelled his opinion when asked why he joined the armed forces if he would not fight?"

You got that exactly right. I have (had?) a long-time friend how was a Merchant Marine, now USN reserves. He has been bashing every Republican from Simon to Bush to me in mass e-mails since the election "scandal."

When war was looming in Iraq, he was mass e-mailing me directions to anti-war protests. When I asked him, again, to remember who he was writing to, and even sent him the quote from my profile page here on FR, he launched into even more personal e-mails, several by the hour, picking apart all of my arguments rather pathetically. He is not pro-peace, he is anti-Bush. If this were Clinton, or even Gore (shudder), I doubt he would have a problem with any of it.

The saddest part is this is someone who used to be pro-life and used his head to think things through. That person is gone. He is now ruled by emotion, not logic.
11 posted on 04/08/2003 8:51:09 AM PDT by cgk (the Mrs half)
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Nobody's shutting anybody else up. The left is being CRITICIZED, for heaven's sake. They really, really can't take it; they are so used to being lionized by an overwhelmingly leftsymp press. I think they are just shocked that they aren't having the impact they had in the Vietman days (the Good Old Days for them) and responding in the only way they can, with whining and more self-congratulatory, self-serving, "I'm-a-VICTIM" lies.
12 posted on 04/08/2003 8:52:17 AM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: dirtboy
We only have so much public space, and every now and then it must be shared between protesters and commuters.

NOT! The commuters have their space, that is the roads and streets, the protesters have theirs, namely parks and other public places. The protesters, irregardless of what or who they are protesting, do not have the right to disrupt the lives of others. The right to free speech does not include the "right" to be heard, only to speak. Similary the right of assembly only extends to "peaceable" assembly. Throwing bolts, disrupting traffic, and generally gettting in peoples' faces do not fall under the umbrella of "peaceable".

Both sides have the right to speak, and that includes the right to critize what the other side is saying and how they are saying it. The right of free speech and assembly are really only restraints upon government restrictions of those activities, not upon other individuals. You don't have a right to use my microphone for instance, nor to burn or destroy property not your own. You want to burn the flag? Fine, go buy or make your own and have at it. if you set yourself on fire in the process, I'll be ROTFLMAO. If you burn or otherwise destroy a flag not your own, you need to go to jail. If its my flag, expect, at minimum, a lawsuit and perhaps some buckshot up where the sun don't shine.

13 posted on 04/08/2003 8:53:53 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: dirtboy
Note to the newspaper: The First Amendment never came with a clause that said people who exercise it wouldn't have to accept responsibility for what they say. Don't want to put your meal ticket at risk? Get another day job or shut the heck up. The First Amendment isn't a celebrity job protection act.
14 posted on 04/08/2003 8:53:54 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: dirtboy
Back in 1970, a guy named Richard Sennett wrote a book called "The Uses of Disorder." He argues that excessively ordered communities (think suburbs) stunt the growth of adults, leaving them in a permanent adolescence. Because they never confront a disorderly environment (think cities), they never learn to deal with confrontation.

NO a$$hole, they are not adolescents in the suburbs, they all have jobs pay taxes and expect law and order, you, on the other hand rewarded every dispicable form of lawlessness with code words: (think racism) (think diversity) (think despair). Before you write anymore BullshRITTER why don't YOU think?

15 posted on 04/08/2003 8:55:34 AM PDT by try phecta tom ((Harvey RULES. Paul not the rabbit)
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And Mr. Hughes, the First Amendement also doesn't provide one with an opportunity to break the law with impunity.
16 posted on 04/08/2003 8:56:07 AM PDT by mewzilla
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What if I just think the protestors should shutup because they're giving me a headache? Because anyone who'd drink sour milk and puke all over as a form of "protest" is obviously an idiot? Because lieing on a road is stupid? Does that make me a coward, or just easily annoyed?
17 posted on 04/08/2003 8:56:57 AM PDT by discostu (I have not yet begun to drink)
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Oh come on guys. This idiot is just trying to out do the jerk at Columbia. Give him a break.
18 posted on 04/08/2003 9:00:25 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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" He argues that excessively ordered communities (think suburbs) stunt the growth of adults, leaving them in a permanent adolescence. Because they never confront a disorderly environment (think cities), they never learn to deal with confrontation."

What a moron.The lefts excessive permissiveness,non existantant moral standing,and refusal to distinguish between right and wrong in the their way of thinking causes the extended adolescence in themselves.Note that the only people who are out destoying property,childishly lying in the streets,vomiting on buildings,ect., is the left.The rallies of middle America are sane and orderly and to my knowledge there have been no arrests.
19 posted on 04/08/2003 9:05:08 AM PDT by TracyLynn
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Nobody's shutting anybody else up. The left is being CRITICIZED, for heaven's sake. They really, really can't take it; they are so used to being lionized by an overwhelmingly leftsymp press.

My local paper, the Colorado Springs Gazette, ran a Knight Ridder article March 23 entitled "Demanding to be heard: To disagree is an American right, but dissenters often drowned out."

Drowned out? Ideas, like products, have a market or they don't have a market. Are cabbage-patch dolls "drowned out" of the market these days? How about Tickle-me Elmos?

That Knight Ridder article included this quote: "Critics of this war on Iraq have discovered the truth of what Alexis de Tocqueville, the French commentator, observed about America 160 years ago, that 'the tyranny of the majority' often 'represses not only all contest, but all controversy.' "

Oh, shut up! Oops...I didn't mean to be tyrannical or oppressive! There you have it: The liberal media observing that when we boycott Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks or label the Columbia university prof as a marxist that America is engaging in outright tyranny.

Traditional lefty double standard: The left can dissent from support of the war; but dare anybody dissent from the dissenters, look out! 'Tyranny' is running amok!

20 posted on 04/08/2003 9:08:38 AM PDT by Colofornian
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