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Bombs Can't Bust Saddam Bunker, Builder Says
Yahoo News ^ | Fri Mar 28,10:49 AM ET | By David Crossland

Posted on 03/29/2003 12:32:53 PM PST by vannrox


A radar-avoiding U.S. B-2 bomber dropped two earth-shattering 4,600-pound 'bunker-buster' bombs on Friday on a major link in Iraq's communications network in downtown Baghdad, defense officials said. It was believed to be the first use of the big bombs on Baghdad. Allied jets have pounded targets in the Iraqi capital with hundreds of bombs and missiles in the week-old war to depose President Saddam Hussein. (Reuters Graphic)

Bombs Can't Bust Saddam Bunker, Builder Says
Fri Mar 28,10:49 AM ET
By David Crossland

BERLIN (Reuters) - The German architect of one of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s main bunkers in Baghdad said on Friday the Iraqi leader can survive anything short of a direct hit with a nuclear bomb if he stays within its four-feet-thick walls.

"It could withstand the shock wave of a nuclear bomb the size of the Hiroshima one detonating 250 meters away," said Karl Esser, a security consultant who designed the bunker underneath Saddam's main presidential palace in Baghdad.

U.S.-led troops will also find it hard to fight their way in through its three-ton Swiss-made doors, Esser told Reuters in an interview.

A retired Yugoslav army officer who helped build other bunkers for Saddam also told Reuters this week that the shelters were impenetrable and could survive an atomic bomb.

CNN reported on Friday that U.S. B-52 bombers dropped a two ton "bunker busting" bomb on the capital for the first time in the campaign.

The palace bunker can accommodate 50 people and has two escape tunnels, one leading 200 meters to the Tigris river.

It was built in 1982 and 1983 by German firm Boswau & Knauer, which merged into what is now the Walter-Bau AG building group.

At the time Esser was a consultant for a German government-sponsored civil protection body and had his own company, Schutzraumtechnik Esser GmbH, which supplied equipment for Saddam's bunker.

Whether Saddam is using the bunker or is even still alive is unclear, with London and Washington saying they were not convinced that television broadcasts he has made since the war started were live.

The U.S. and Britain launched the war on Iraq (news - web sites) last week with a bombing attack on Baghdad intended to target Saddam, and have pounded the city for nine days.

But Esser said "bunker busting" bombs like the one dropped on Friday would fail to penetrate the bunker because they first have to get though the palace built directly above it.

"The presidential palace above gives natural protection so the bunker can only be cracked by ground troops or a tactical nuclear bomb," said Esser.

The bunker ceiling itself, made of steel-reinforced concrete and up to two meters (yards) thick, was designed to withstand the direct impact of a 230 kg bomb, said Esser.

"It's not a combat bunker, it's an air raid shelter, otherwise it would have had to be built with gun slits and a variety of other features," said Esser.

"Ground troops could get in by taking out the doors with bazookas and explosives."

Construction took place at a time when western companies were legally supplying Saddam with arms and equipment during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war.

Esser said he assumes the plans of the bunker had been passed on to Germany's foreign intelligence service.

Esser remembers giving Saddam a personal tour of the bunker's features, which include a water tank, electricity generator, air filter, 30 square meter command center and so-called electromagnetic pulse protection system -- to shield electrical circuits from the impact of an explosion.

"He was satisfied," said Esser. "He was totally friendly. He was wearing civilian clothes and looked like an ordinary civil servant but you could tell he was important because everyone immediately went quiet when he started talking."

Esser said he had no qualms about having helped to protect a dictator likened to Hitler.

"It's not just one person getting protection, it's several people, it's the palace staff as well. I just see it as an achievement of bunker technology," said Esser.



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KEYWORDS: bomb; bunker; bunkerbusters; buster; iran; iraq; nuclear; terror; tunnel; underground; wtc
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Looks like we are going to HAVE to go Nuclear to hit his bunkers.
1 posted on 03/29/2003 12:32:53 PM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
I'll wait 'til they interview the builder of the bomb...
2 posted on 03/29/2003 12:34:58 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack
Its time to lob a 1 km wide asteroid on top of Saddam's bunker.
3 posted on 03/29/2003 12:37:28 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: vannrox
Maybe we can just plug all the exits and let him live down there forever.
4 posted on 03/29/2003 12:37:36 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: vannrox
Isn't this just an expensive grave? Cement over the entries perhaps 6 months later digging him out would make a great show on the Discovery Channel.
5 posted on 03/29/2003 12:37:55 PM PST by Voltage
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To: vannrox
The palace bunker can accommodate 50 people and has two escape tunnels, one leading 200 meters to the Tigris river.

And there is the key.

6 posted on 03/29/2003 12:39:18 PM PST by Riley
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To: vannrox
Sounds like a challenge....
8 posted on 03/29/2003 12:43:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: vannrox
Destroy the EXITS and let the rats starve, 6 Months, a year who cares.
Or even better , MINE the exit tunnels and let them cave in when they try to get out.
9 posted on 03/29/2003 12:43:05 PM PST by bigj00
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To: vannrox
Fear not. That cockroach is going to get squashed whether he (it) is inside or outside a kraut bunker.
10 posted on 03/29/2003 12:43:48 PM PST by Zorrito
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To: vannrox
there was a thread on this yesterday, same article. its true, those bunkers are impenetrable. some strategy to get at them another way will be needed.
11 posted on 03/29/2003 12:43:53 PM PST by oceanview
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Hmmmmmmmmm, how does he know if he is not privey to the makings of the bomb???? I doubt the Pentagon is giving him any information.
12 posted on 03/29/2003 12:44:18 PM PST by Kath (Lubya Dubya)
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To: vannrox
We know how successful those German bunkers are. Ask der Fuhrer.

Hitler married Eva Braun in the last days of the Third Reich. I wonder if Hussein will marry Chirac.
13 posted on 03/29/2003 12:44:27 PM PST by Young Rhino (France delenda est)
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14 posted on 03/29/2003 12:45:46 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: Young Rhino
Hitler killed himself, the bunker survived.
15 posted on 03/29/2003 12:46:20 PM PST by oceanview
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To: vannrox
No. Just find all entrances as exits. Fill with cement. Wait one year. Then send in Geraldo with his own TV special to open up saddam hussein's vault.
16 posted on 03/29/2003 12:47:01 PM PST by flashbunny
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To: Young Rhino
Hitler married Eva Braun in the last days of the Third Reich. I wonder if Hussein will marry Chirac.


17 posted on 03/29/2003 12:47:22 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Time to bomb Saddam!)
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To: vannrox
It was built in 1982 and 1983 by German firm Boswau & Knauer, which merged into what is now the Walter-Bau AG building group.

Why are we not surprised?

Oh, but pay not attention to this. The German and French have dismissed any allegations that they oppose this war because of their ongoing cosy relationship with this criminal.

18 posted on 03/29/2003 12:47:37 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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19 posted on 03/29/2003 12:48:35 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: Riley
The exits to the bunker have probably been hit with smart bombs. Saddam is sealed in. When we occupy the city, we can go get him in his hole if he hasn't already assumed room temperature.
20 posted on 03/29/2003 12:48:49 PM PST by Hiwayman
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