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To: Richard Poe
Oh, right, I must be a Russian agent since Pravda took it upon themselves to reprint my work without my permission. So, if we follow the "logic" here, we have to also infer that I am an Israeli agent (since my stuff has been reprinted in Israel), a Macedonian agent (since a number of Macedonian papers have reprinted my work), ad infinitum.

Pravda, Shmavda -- if this is the kind of "logic" involved in Richard Poe's contention that Iraq really bombed the World Trade Center (and, I guess, the Oklahoma City federal building), then I don't think "tinfoil hat" quite covers it: Poe's wacky screed is a Reynolds Wrap Special, for sure.

As for being a "traitor," and "enemy agent," or whatever, for questioning whether the invasion and indefinite occupation of Iraq is in America's national interest -- I guess we'll have to also target Brent Scowcroft, General Anthony Zinni, Norman Scharzkopf, the former commander of the Marines, and Senator John Hagel as my fellow conspirators. Good luck with that one....

Ad hominem attacks are always an indication that the writer has run out of valid arguments, and that is certainly the case with the War Party. They know perfectly well that attacking Iraq makes no sense -- none at all -- in the midst of a war against Al Qaeda, and benefits one and only one country, and that is Israel. So they try to distract us away from the real issue, in the hope that no one will notice the paucity of their own arguments.

I find it fascinating that people on this thread are saying how right I was when it came to opposing the Kosovo war -- but my reasons for opposing that war, and this one, are identical. The Kosovo war was fought for the benefit, not of the U.S., but of the Turks, and the Albanian Kosovars (really, the same entity): this current war is being fought for Turkey's main ally in the Middle East, which is Israel. I am being entirely consistent: I support wars of self-defense, not wars of conquest against nations that have never attacked us (a describtion that fits both Serbia and Iraq).

Wars of conquest are un-American. That's why I oppose this war. And, don't forget: war is the health of the State. I see Drudge is running a huge headline about "Part II" of the "Patriot" Act: now we'll see a real-life demonstration of the principle that you can't have a global empire and a constitutional republic at the same time. Hey, Iron Jack, long time, no see.

Oh, and "Hi, Veronica!" Sold any artwork lately?

47 posted on 02/08/2003 2:55:25 PM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: Justin Raimondo
"...since Pravda took it upon themselves to reprint my work without my permission."

    Right. Without your permission. How convenient. Can you say, "plausible deniability?" I knew that you could. Owen Lattimore would be proud of you.

"...since my stuff has been reprinted in Israel... Macedonia..."

    Uh huh. And the ACLU has defended the Nazis, so they couldn't possibly be commies, could they?

"...attacking Iraq makes no sense -- none at all -- in the midst of a war against Al Qaeda, and benefits one and only one country, and that is Israel."

    No sense? For twelve long years Iraq violates its agreement to disarm and you think we should give them more time? How much time, Justin? A year? Five years? Fifty years? I know you're not so naive as to think Saddam will ever stop producing and using WPMs, so just why would you want to give him all eternity to do what we all know he will not do? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that a confirmed pacifist like you would wink at this sort of arms build-up in such an explosive region. What, are you pro-proliferation now, Justin?

    Benefits only Israel? Seems to me that it benefits quite a few others, starting with the Iraqi people themselves. But then you already know that Saddam has used chemical warfare against the inhabitants of his own country, don't you? And you're also well aware of what Saddam has deployed against the Iranians -- just as you're well acquainted with Saddam's penchant for invading our allies' countries (think: Kuwait). So why pretend otherwise?

    While we're at it, perhaps you can tell me why Saddam, who has "nothing" to do with Al Qaeda, has been hosting known Al Qaeda and providing them with facilities in Northeast Iraq.


50 posted on 02/08/2003 3:45:29 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Justin Raimondo
"We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them."

President George W. Bush


51 posted on 02/08/2003 3:51:42 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Justin Raimondo
<< Pravda took it upon themselves to reprint my work without my permission. >>

There seems to be some discrepancy between your account and Bill White's.

Pravda's former U.S. correspondent Bill White claims here and here that you were instrumental in forcing his resignation -- that you bombarded Pravda.ru's editors with angry letters and threatened to pull your columns in protest against their hiring of White.

All of this implies that you did indeed have some sort of editorial relationship with Pravda.ru.

Granted, White is not the most reliable source. But I'd like to know, for the record, whether you are calling him a liar.

52 posted on 02/08/2003 3:54:56 PM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Justin Raimondo
<< the War Party [knows] perfectly well that attacking Iraq makes no sense -- none at all -- in the midst of a war against Al Qaeda >>

Personally, I haven't the foggiest idea who or what "Al Qaeda" really is or why I should believe that this nebulous "terrorist network" is solely responsible for the 9-11 attacks -- or even capable of carrying out such an operation.

Granted, the talking hairstyles on television have been urging me to draw this conclusion ever since 9-11. But, for some reason, I am hesitant to take their word for it.

I presume you have some authoritative data to back up your "lone terrorist network" theory?

53 posted on 02/08/2003 4:14:09 PM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Justin Raimondo
I support wars of self-defense, not wars of conquest against nations that have never attacked us (a describtion that fits both Serbia and Iraq).

OK. Serbia has never attacked the U.S., our allies, or known national strategic interests. Iraq has. begining in 1990 (or even earlier) up until this very day. Whether Iraq was solely responsible for the first bombing of the WTC is debatable. There is no debate they had a hand (logistics, humint, etc.) in the attack.

You may not believe that OKC was related to Iraq. Fine. But the Iraqi military shoots at us, the British and others every day. Justin, one more time I'll tell you this: we are at war, since before 9-11, with an enemy which seeks our (and the western world's) total destruction. Apparently 9-11 didn't have as much impact on you as it did me and the rest of the American people.

Sorry, I wasted your time and mine.

5.56mm

54 posted on 02/08/2003 4:19:39 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Justin Raimondo
They know perfectly well that attacking Iraq makes no sense -- none at all -- in the midst of a war against Al Qaeda, and benefits one and only one country, and that is Israel.

So, it's all part of the zionist conspiracy?

You're not brilliant. Antisemitism is the hallmark of a mediocre intellect.

78 posted on 02/08/2003 6:39:09 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Justin Raimondo
Hey, Justin. Looks like you've stepped on the gators' tails again.
90 posted on 02/09/2003 6:24:12 AM PST by IronJack
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