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I post this article to go along with this FR thread:

Experts Say Microsoft Security Effort Failing

Since Microsoft is a software MARKETING company instead of a software DEVELOPMENT company, it is easy to see that they interpreted the entire security "thing" as

JUST ANOTHER GIMMICK THAT CAN BE USED TO SELL MORE PRODUCTS

as opposed to a way to, horrors,

a way to actually IMPROVE THE SECURITY of their products

1 posted on 01/31/2003 5:55:49 AM PST by chilepepper
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To: chilepepper
I like your angle on SOFTWARE MARKETING versus SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT.

Many, many software engineers are now speaking the words "Microsoft needs to get sued for all the damage caused by their negligence!!"

The nonsense about "licensed for use" and "customer installation disclaimers" must give way to major corporations pooling their legal resources to SUCK the profits away from Gates and crew.

Then Microsoft will be forced back into the mold of responsible software development.
2 posted on 01/31/2003 6:04:10 AM PST by HadEnough
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To: chilepepper
I did this upgrade to my XPPro version and it blew away all my netscape email accounts. The security install did not provide any warnings for xp users with non ms browsers.
3 posted on 01/31/2003 6:17:09 AM PST by cheme
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To: chilepepper
a way to actually IMPROVE THE SECURITY of their products...get mac os 10.2!
4 posted on 01/31/2003 6:29:03 AM PST by RWG
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To: chilepepper
If you want security and privacy, you should consider OS X or Linux/BSD.
If you want to play games and let Big Brother keep an eye on your machine, go with Windows.
5 posted on 01/31/2003 6:32:39 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool (The funniest hubris is Muslim hubris)
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To: chilepepper

6 posted on 01/31/2003 6:34:39 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: chilepepper
Win 2000 and XP ARE upgrades for NT 4.0. Win 2000 came out in 1998.

I'd like to know if Apple still supplies security upgrades for OS 8.0, or whether they are encouraging people to upgrade to X.

11 posted on 01/31/2003 7:10:58 AM PST by js1138
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To: chilepepper
Why does buying a product entitle anyone to have everything the company creates after that for free?

I have 1996 truck. Ford has utterly failed to keep my truck up to date whenever they come out with a new one! Cheats! - Profiteers!

jeesh.
15 posted on 01/31/2003 8:04:43 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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I read a report the other day that MIcrosoft should become it's own nation. I think it should, then ite wouldn't have to deal with soo many complainers, including the US gov.
18 posted on 01/31/2003 8:09:51 AM PST by Porterville
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To: chilepepper
Since Microsoft is a software MARKETING company instead of a software DEVELOPMENT company, it is easy to see that they interpreted the entire security "thing" as

... and you're a hot air machine masquerading as someone with technical knowledge.
34 posted on 01/31/2003 9:31:17 AM PST by Bush2000
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Give me a break. They all do the same thing. Apple bitched because MS had a built in audio player and browser and ISP and etc, etc,... Now what does Mac have? It has Ipod and Itools and Imovie and IDVD and it's own browser, etc,etc,etc,... People like to bash MS becuase they are the biggest player but all the other players try to be like them.

I like Macs and PC's, they both have there own benefits and drawbacks. I know a lot less about Unix OS's but enought to know that it is a very cool OS and could be quite promising if things go well for it. Personally I would be emparrased if I was a "security expert" and had a problem installing a patch from MS. Yes, we have all had problems from time to time but things are still pretty equal. I installed an update on a Macintosh(onto OSX no less) and after I did, my email quit responding to the outgoing mail server. When I looked on Apples website, they actually referred to the solution as an "enhancement" rather than a bug fix. Hmmm, sounds like Apple has learned a few lessons from MS...

67 posted on 01/31/2003 8:17:43 PM PST by Hootch
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One user with extensive security training, who asked not to be named, said she recently installed Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, which includes security fixes. The installation destroyed her network connection, forcing her to uninstall the service pack and leaving that machine exposed to the vulnerabilities the update should have fixed.

This sounds like B.S. to me. SP3 is very stable. Just because some dingbat broad can't manage the retard-proof "Network Connections" properties doesn't mean the whole patch is no good. What about her IS Tech? If she doesn't have one perhaps she should do some more reading or shut up.

79 posted on 01/31/2003 9:51:21 PM PST by montag813
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Hey, what if Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed? Oh, wait... he does!
169 posted on 02/03/2003 2:29:16 PM PST by Oberon (Walking the pattern every day on FreeRepublic)
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