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Saddam Has Nukes, Ex-Weapons Inspector Says
Newsmax.com ^ | Friday Dec. 6, 2002 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com

Posted on 12/06/2002 3:52:00 PM PST by SirChas

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To: Myrddin; wardaddy
Do you think Norwalk and West Nile are probes? What SWAG % of certainty?

I think that Saddam has already secreted plenty of anthrax or smallpox in the USA, and his "failsafe firing system" is providing the address of the mini storage garages or similar where they are hidden to Al Qaeda.

61 posted on 12/06/2002 9:56:21 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Mitchell
Do you have that reversed?... Test on the Hiroshima device but no test prior to the Nagasaki device? Fat Man then Little Boy
62 posted on 12/06/2002 9:58:36 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Mitchell
I'd go for the gun design. You literally can't miss when the target is in the barrel with the projectile!

Remember last year they arrested an Al Queda stowaway in a container in Italy with air holes, commode, food, GPS, sat phone, and a washing machine?

My guess is the heavy bulky washer was the stand in for a nuke in a test run. It's easy for a stowaway to slip off a ship in port, harder for him to deliver a washer to an address in NYC or DC to prove the delivery route's reliability.

63 posted on 12/06/2002 10:01:25 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: SirChas
What happened to Scott Ritter?

Tierney answered this question on Sean Hannity as well. His opinion is that Ritter went way out on a limb for his country and was rewarded by the administration cutting the limb off then jumping out of the tree to stab him in the back before he could get up. This is a paraphrase, but I do remember it was pretty close to that.

64 posted on 12/06/2002 10:06:52 PM PST by EricT.
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To: Travis McGee; Allah
Nebuch stops here. USS Truman & Co.

Saddamn is shaped by Stalin and allied with Pan-Islamists and the Axis, seeing himself as the supreme arab ruler bringing the desert peoples of the Craddle of Civilization back to rightful greatness - omitting "the rest of the story" - the Mongol Hordes, (Tamerlane?) invaded one troublesome Neo-Babylon and killed hundreds of thousands, most everyone there amid the blazing razing of their marbled palaces and hanging gardens. Maybe they can't get that civilization thing right.

I have no doubt that Saddam sees himself rising from 100 meters below Bagdad's dusty ashes among the throngs of 1 billion devout jihadis, via al Jizz-era tv, clammering for "Death to America! No really, this time we mean it."

Iraqi oil in the ground is safe money in his bank. Saddam's military judgement is very poor, but his cannon fodder breeders seem furtile. Saddam billboards and statues must stimulate as lotus blossoms. Maybe Iraqi minarets are seen as Saddam phallic symbols, in that unusually secular nation.

We must be braced for their well practiced mass murders here and Anglo-American communities abroad, especially the most obvious mortal threat to Islam, teenagers and children. Saddam was ill-prepared for a second front during the Mother of Battles. This time, Qaeda/Iran's mullah mafia/Paliban death cult are on his team, and they are here. At least our Left Coasties will be safer, rightfully disarmed by the 9th's Blackrobes.

Like Hitler's 75th birthday Bavarian retirement party, there may be more likely a Plan B.

Allah uaaakkkk barf.
65 posted on 12/06/2002 10:12:47 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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To: Quix
God you are the only one who can preserve what we have left from him and his armies like him. Please keep his worse half from fulfilling her Senate term and especially from tarnishing the White House AGAIN! Amen.

A prayer for Exorcism!

66 posted on 12/06/2002 10:12:55 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: DoughtyOne
Meanwhile he was actually hired by the Iraqi government to conduct PR or some other effort on behalf of them.

I thought it was illegal for Americans to work for Iraq?

67 posted on 12/06/2002 10:15:23 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: SevenDaysInMay
I think we'll live to see megadeath, here and also there.

At some point, (possibly during our liberation of Iraq), some islamic nations are going to go nuts and lynch every Westerner they can get hold of.

If a WMD is loosed in America, there will be open season on muslims here.

I think we'll see a "quarantine" of islamic nations, for the safety of the West. No travel between the two worlds.

We can "handle" our islamikazis handily in the USA, but "Eurabia" is in for a real hell on earth when the $#!+ hits the fan.

68 posted on 12/06/2002 10:22:17 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: cardinal4
I realize she's just a bag of flesh infected by the enemy's forces and that truly we "wrestle not against flesh and blood."

HOWSOMEVER . . . she sure makes a good impersonization of a demon all seemingly on her own.

If a husband wasn't evil before marrying her, he'd become so in short order. As it was, they were a matched set evidently matched up in hell.
69 posted on 12/06/2002 10:26:03 PM PST by Quix
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To: Travis McGee
My tinfoil hat registers 'night of the long knives' mass assasination swarms, continued multiple encephalitis diseases, area denial anthrax, livestock and plantlife plagues, salted radiation &/or dirties and maybe a few boxed nukes, for al Jizz-era's music videos. From schools and malls, the homefront will suffer attrition shock and a serious case of the get 'ems. I pray for the Sikhs.

70 posted on 12/06/2002 11:00:07 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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To: MHGinTN
Do you have that reversed?... Test on the Hiroshima device but no test prior to the Nagasaki device? Fat Man then Little Boy

I think it really was right the way I had it: there was no test on the U-235 gun design (Little Boy, dropped on Hiroshima), but the plutonium-based implosion design (Fat Man, dropped on Nagasaki) was tested, at Alamogordo, before actual use in war.

71 posted on 12/06/2002 11:06:24 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell
Thank you. Sorry to be a nuisance. I was born the day Hiroshima was hit. Had to use forceps to get me out of the womb! Scary place this.
72 posted on 12/06/2002 11:13:37 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Travis McGee
Remember last year they arrested an Al Queda stowaway in a container in Italy with air holes, commode, food, GPS, sat phone, and a washing machine?

Yes, I remember that. Wasn't he caught in Rome in the middle of a trip from Egypt to Canada?

...My guess is the heavy bulky washer was the stand in for a nuke in a test run.

Could be. Or maybe something could have been hidden in the washing machine.

I'm reminded of the refrigerators in an article from the March 25, 2000, issue of The New Yorker containing the following [the boldface is my emphasis]:

A year later, there was a new development: Othman told Jawad to smuggle several dozen refrigerator motors into Afghanistan for the Iraqi Mukhabarat; a cannister filled with liquid was attached to each motor. Jawad said that he asked Othman for more information. "I said, 'Othman, what does this contain?' He said, 'My life and your life. ' He said they"-the Iraqi agents-"were going to kill us if we didn't do this. That's all I'll say.

"I was given a book of dollars," Jawad went on, meaning ten thousand dollars-a hundred American hundred-dollar bills. "I was told to arrange to smuggle the motors. Othman told me to kill any of the smugglers who helped us once we got there." Vehicles belonging to the Taliban were waiting at the border, and Jawad said that he turned over the liquid-filled refrigerator motors to the Taliban, and then killed the smugglers who had helped him.

Jawad said that he had no idea what liquid was inside the motors, but he assumed that it was some type of chemical or biological weapon. I asked the Kurdish officials who remained in the room if they believed that, as late as 2000, the Mukhabarat was transferring chemical or biological weapons to Al Qaeda. They spoke carefully. "We have no idea what was in the cannisters," the senior official said. "This is something that is worth an American investigation."

When I asked Jawad to tell me why he worked for Al Qaeda, he replied, "Money." He would not say how much money he had been paid, but he suggested that it was quite a bit. I had one more question: How many years has Al Qaeda maintained a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime? "There's been a relationship between the Mukhabarat and the people of Al Qaeda since 1992 ," he replied.

73 posted on 12/06/2002 11:17:44 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: MHGinTN
Sorry to be a nuisance.

Not at all.

It's a strange business, from beginning to end. When I originally read that the first atomic bomb design was used before being tested, I found it a bit hard to believe, but it turned out to be true.

74 posted on 12/06/2002 11:20:11 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Optimist
I was never comfortable with the idea that an inspection team could root out the presence of WMDs anyway. How could they possibly be the definitive resource for whether an entire nation had or hadn't stored them in some remote spot?
75 posted on 12/06/2002 11:30:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: cardinal4
You may be right on that. I'm not sure.
76 posted on 12/06/2002 11:31:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Travis McGee
There were also the refrigerators being smuggled into the Gaza strip in floating barrels, if that's what was really in the barrels. Terrorism by appliance?
77 posted on 12/06/2002 11:33:38 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Travis McGee
It's hard to put a figure on % certainty. It just seems completely unreasonable that multiple cruise ships would have outbreaks of the same virus over a short period of time...unless there is a common means of infection. Norwalk is spread by poor sanitation e.g. people not washing their hands after using the restroom. Smallpox is spread by face to face contact, contact with contaminated bedding and contaminated dishes/silverware. The use of a food service to "inoculate" the vessel is dirt simple. People are a lot more trusting of silverware than restroom doors.
78 posted on 12/07/2002 12:09:05 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: All
BTTT !
79 posted on 12/07/2002 4:37:37 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Lael
To assume that Saddam doesn't have them is foolish.

I agree. The hardest part for Saddam may be to get his own nuclear engineers to do their jobs. The engineers and physicists assume that nuclear weapons use by Saddam would result in they and their family being obliterated in nuclear retaliation. So they are scared to death to actually succeed in producing bombs. On the other hand, they are also scared to death to be found out for foot-dragging and then tortured. As a result, truth is in very short supply but underestimating Saddam's capabilities or resolve is a terrible mistake.

80 posted on 12/07/2002 6:35:31 AM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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