Experts Question Authenticity of Bone Box for `Brother of Jesus'

The New York Times ^ | December 3, 2002 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

[narses]

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[Joshua]

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The WDF - World Debating Federation. They're tag-teaming you...:-)

"I answer him forthrightly, and for my efforts I get called a "chump" and wrongly accused of being "a liar". "

Look at the bright side. Poly<>< could have said he agreed with you on something. Now that would be insulting....

[Cicero]

I didn't believe it when I first read about it. I believed it less when reports came out about the two different handwritings. I'm pleased that the experts are now pretty nearly unanimous that it's a fake.

The enemies of Christianity love to do this kind of stuff. I remember when the Dead Sea Scrolls first came out, they were all convinced that it would prove that Christianity was a fake. Now it's pretty evident that the Dead Sea Scrolls are documents that prove very little about anything, except for the activities of a small group of Essenes.

[Salvation]

It's amazing when more details come out, isn't it?

[Polycarp]

It would seem that today's accusation comes from you attibuting words to him, that were actually words that he posted from another apologist.

But, in general, it is that you think this ossuary, even if authentic, proves anything about Mary's Perpetual Virginity. That even though the idea of Joseph having a previous wife is plausible, you persist in the idea that it is not.

Perfect summary. Beyond this statement, further dialogue with the likes of Berned is pointless. His pet theories re: Jesus' "brothers" have been irrefutably debunked so often, he has no defense for repeating them here. Thus the validity of the charges against him, namely of willful deceiver.

[berned]

FOR THE FOURTH TIME, POLYCARP, I DEMAND YOU ANSWER ME IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, THE RISEN LORD.... -- who wrote the words:

"If authentic, as seems probable, it is to be welcomed as further archaeological confirmation of the life of our Lord"

Did the author you quoted write them, or did YOU, Polycarp, write them?????????????

[ArrogantBustard]

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain...

[Polycarp]

I've answered you fully. And your demands are those of a fraud, which I do not need to obey, and your use of His Name in the context of those demands is blasphemous.

I will pray for your eventual enlightenment and salvation.

[berned]

On this day, your own lies and deceit have condemned yourself before all who read your words here, and before God.

[Polycarp]

Thank you for sharing YOPIOS. May God Bless you abundantly, illuminate your darkened intellect, and have Mercy on your soul.

[berned]

I have done a word-search on the document YOU posted here:

http://www.catholic.com/library/Burial_Box_of_St_James_Found.asp

and I CANNOT FIND the sentence...

"If authentic, as seems probable, it is to be welcomed as further archaeological confirmation of the life of our Lord"

Polycarp, have you ADDED WORDS to another author's article, and are now trying to pass YOUR words off as HIS WORDS????????????

If not, please post where the words -- "If authentic, as seems probable, it is to be welcomed as further archaeological confirmation of the life of our Lord" -- came from as I CANNOT FIND THEM in the text of the article you posted.

[Polycarp]

If not, please post where the words came from

More than likely, they came from Deal Hudson, editor of Crisis Magazine, who emailed James Akin's article to me.

Not that it makes one shred of difference to this debate.

You used this bone box hoax all over this Forum, to denigrate and persecute Catholics. It has been proven to be a hoax, yet you refuse to admit so and apologize for trying to use this hoax as a club with which to persecute Catholics and willfully deceive others.

Your lies about the "brothers" of Jesus have been refuted here, here, and here, as well as in a multitude of threads all over this Forum. Even your fellow protestants have refuted your nonsense.

You use a fraud to support YOPIOS, you are attacking Christ by attacking His Church, and you willfully deceive, as I have irrefutably proven on this thread.

I will continue to pray for your eventual enlightenment and salvation. Thank you for sharing YOPIOS.

[berned]

So when YOU posted the words (relating to the ossuary)"If authentic, as seems probable, it is to be welcomed as further archaeological confirmation of the life of our Lord"

in essence, by posting those words, YOU TOO, ARE ENDORSING THEM yet now, YOU call ME to this thread and demand that I APOLOGIZE TO YOU for agreeing with your PREVIOUS ENDORSEMENT of the same thing!!!!!!

YOU, POLYCARP, ARE A LYING HYPOCRITE. Your lying, deceitful tactics may make you a Big Man with your catholic freeper friends, but they DO NOT FOOL GOD.

[afraidfortherepublic]

I think it's interesting that many actually want to prove this is a fake...

Why should this surpise you? Shroud of Turin and the rescue of Elian Gonzalez come to mind as other cases where more people want to cast doubt than want to believe.

[Petronski]

Me thinks he doth protest too much.

He reminds me of Gore harping on Dingell-Norwood Dingell-Norwood Dingell-Norwood...

[SunkenCiv]

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