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Clinton aide slams Pentagon's UFO secrecy
CNN | Tuesday, October 22, 2002 Posted: 2:05 PM EDT (1805 GMT) | By Richard Stenger

Posted on 10/22/2002 11:19:36 AM PDT by RoughDobermann

(CNN) -- One winter night in 1965, eyewitnesses saw a fireball streak over North America, bank, turn and appear to crash in western Pennsylvania. Then swarms of military personnel combed the area and a tarp-covered flatbed truck rumbled out of the woods.

Now a former White House chief of staff and an international investigative journalist want to know what the Pentagon knows, calling on it to release classified files about that and other incidents involving unidentified flying objects, or UFOs.

A Pentagon spokesperson could not be reached for comment.

Despite earning little credence among many in the U.S. population, cases of strange aerial phenomena that defy explanation abound -- having been reported by thousands around the country.

The new initiative is not setting out to prove the existence of aliens. Rather the group wants to legitimize the scientific investigation of unexplained aerial phenomena.

"It is time for the government to declassify records that are more than 25 years old and to provide scientists with data that will assist in determining the real nature of this phenomenon," ex-Clinton aid John Podesta said Tuesday.

Podesta was one of numerous political and media heavyweights on hand in Washington, D.C., to announce a new group to gain access to secret government records about UFOs.

Specifically, the Coalition for Freedom of Information (CFI) is pressing the Air Force for documents involving Project Moon Dust and Operation Blue Fly, clandestine operations reported to have existed decades ago to investigate UFOs and retrieve objects of unknown origins.

One of the most mysterious cases, the Kecksburg, Pennsylvania incident of December 5, 1965, is the first cited in the group's request for records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Despite an official government story that the object was a meteorite, some eyewitnesses claimed that a military truck took an acorn-shaped object the size of a small car from the rural Pennsylvania crash site to an Air Force base in Ohio.

"We can't come up with a reason why this information is being withheld. The government won't even acknowledge that the incident took place but we know that it did," said Leslie Kean, a California-based freelance reporter who drafted the FOIA request.

In the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, the government did take the UFO search seriously and top generals considered the pros and cons of informing the U.S. public, Kean said, citing top secret memos.

In 1969, however, the Air Force terminated Project Blue Book, concluding that no reported UFOs were threats to national security.

Paradoxically, Kean notes, the military continues to deny some requests for UFO information by citing national security concerns.

Backed by the Sci-Fi channel, the CFI hopes to reduce the scientific ridicule factor in this country when the topic is UFOs.

"There's definitely evidence of strange phenomenon in the world. These are well documented," said Kean, who has written for The Nation, the Boston Globe and the International Herald Tribune.

"Most people don't think that there is evidence because they haven't look for it. There's such a little green men mindset in this culture. It's hard to work your way through that."

The CFI director Ed Rollins also works for Podesta's public relations firm, Podestamattoon, which is coordinating the new group at the behest of the Sci- Fi channel. He said the initiative was a call for serious investigation, not a publicity stunt for the cable network.

"The Sci-Fi channel has had an interest in [UFOs] for some time. The difference here is that they are focusing attention on the serious, factual side of the issue, and that scientists have not had a chance to thoroughly examine it," Rollins said.

"Of course it could help programming. But Sci-Fi thought they had some resources they could bring to the table."


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: area51; buildthewall; extraterrestrials; johnpodesta; ufos
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Buying Reynold's stock as we type...
1 posted on 10/22/2002 11:19:36 AM PDT by RoughDobermann
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To: RoughDobermann
Wait...wasn't one of Web Hubbel's first instructions from Clinton to learn if UFO's were real or not?
2 posted on 10/22/2002 11:21:27 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: RoughDobermann
Yep! Definite 'hat material'...

3 posted on 10/22/2002 11:23:22 AM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: RoughDobermann
Why didn't Podesta push this when Clinton was President. Oh, I forgot, he wasn't getting paid by the Sci-Fi channel to do it then.
4 posted on 10/22/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: RoughDobermann
OK, I see the Dem's latest strategy, after Enron/What-Did-Bush-Know-and-When-Did-He-Know-It failed...

"GEORGE BUSH IS COVERING UP THE TRUTH ABOUT UFO ALIENS!"

5 posted on 10/22/2002 11:26:01 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: RoughDobermann
I think the sick, SOB, sink emperor wants to 'do an alien' or 'git hisself serviced by an alien'.

Gross.

6 posted on 10/22/2002 11:30:20 AM PDT by freedomson
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To: RoughDobermann
"eyewitnesses saw a fireball streak over North America, bank, turn and appear to crash in western Pennsylvania."

You know there's a bad-a** Hillary Halloweeen joke in here somewhere!!!

7 posted on 10/22/2002 11:30:52 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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To: freedomson
I think the sick, SOB, sink emperor wants to 'do an alien' or 'git hisself serviced by an alien'.

He's just disappointed that he hasn't been picked up for one of those "anal probes".

8 posted on 10/22/2002 11:34:05 AM PDT by mlo
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To: RoughDobermann
They do ask one intelligent question.

If it was just a meteorite, why is the information classified?

I don't know about UFO's, but I have always wondered about this aspect.
9 posted on 10/22/2002 11:38:31 AM PDT by sharktrager
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To: RoughDobermann
PodestamaTOON+ClinTOON=MaROONS......

Mike

10 posted on 10/22/2002 11:38:41 AM PDT by MichaelP
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To: sharktrager
I can see a reason why it would be classified.

The sensors involved in tracking the object are still in use in national defense today. Although they have been upgraded, a discerning enemy might use the information on what those sensors could do THEN and take into account the upgrades that have been made to determine what they can do NOW.
11 posted on 10/22/2002 11:41:11 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
That would explain some of the information being classified. They do, however, have the ability to selectively hide information.

The fact that they took a truck out there and picked the thing up is hardly the same as discussing the means by which they tracked the flight.
12 posted on 10/22/2002 11:44:09 AM PDT by sharktrager
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To: RoughDobermann
All they want to do is register them as Democrats, set up an affirmative action program if they are green, tax them and teach them to hate white people.
13 posted on 10/22/2002 11:44:14 AM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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The sensors involved in tracking the object are still in use in national defense today

Ding, ding, ding!! Winner ahoy! But, but, are you SURE that there is not a conspiracy...?

14 posted on 10/22/2002 11:44:50 AM PDT by RoughDobermann
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To: sharktrager
I have always wondered about this aspect

I find it interesting too, but why now? He had eight years to request info of the Clinton administration. Unfortunately, with the media, just an association is seen as sticking to a subject, something Podesta knows very well.

15 posted on 10/22/2002 11:45:40 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Brian Mosely
Hubbel's first instructions... you are kidding, aren't you?
16 posted on 10/22/2002 11:46:40 AM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs
That's what ol Web claimed in his book...
17 posted on 10/22/2002 11:47:35 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: twigs
I find it interesting too, but why now? He had eight years to request info of the Clinton administration. Unfortunately, with the media, just an association is seen as sticking to a subject, something Podesta knows very well.

I'd guess that the fact that there are $$$$ involved now, his motivation has changed somewhat.

18 posted on 10/22/2002 11:47:36 AM PDT by RoughDobermann
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To: sharktrager
OK, second possibility: this was a classified test that went awry. Ours or theirs--either way, it still may pertain to systems deployed now.
19 posted on 10/22/2002 11:48:39 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Just speechless. Shouldn't be though. I knew these people were evil, but I didn't think of them as, um, well, as touched. What was his justification? And what is the name of his book? Is it worth reading?
20 posted on 10/22/2002 11:50:42 AM PDT by twigs
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