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Saddam Acquiring Technology For 'Long-Range Supergun'
Independent (UK) ^ | 10-10-2002 | Kim Sengupta/Rupert Cornwell

Posted on 10/09/2002 5:02:33 PM PDT by blam

Saddam acquiring technology for 'long-range supergun'

By Kim Sengupta and Rupert Cornwell
10 October 2002

Saddam Hussein has been acquiring the technology to build a long-range "supergun" capable of firing nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, German prosecutors allege.

The claim follows the charging of two Germans who allegedly bought cannon drilling equipment and shipped it to Iraq via Jordan four years ago.

The investigation into the Mannheim-based firm Alriwo began last year. Hubert Jobski, from the prosecutor's office, said yesterday other arrests were expected, and the two men under arrest could each be sentenced to 15 years if found guilty.

"We are convinced that from Mannheim the equipment went to Iraq," said Mr Jobski. "Others will be accused in the case, and we hope to wrap it up very soon."

The prosecution says that one of the accused men, Alriwo employee Bernd Schompeter, bought equipment worth about £220,000 from another company called Burgsmueller in north Germany.

Meanwhile, George Tenet, director of the CIA, contradicted President George Bush in Washington by stating that President Saddam was unlikely to attack the United States with either conventional or weapons of mass destruction in the near future. But he warned that the Iraqi leader might do so if an invasion by America became inevitable.

In a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mr Tenet released previously classified testimony in which a senior CIA official said the risk of an unprovoked attack by President Saddam was "low".

If cornered, he "probably would become less constrained", either by using the weapons himself or giving it to a terrorist group to carry out an attack on the US "as his last chance of taking a large number of victims with him".

The CIA and the White House sought to deny there had been a split, insisting that the Tenet letter was "consistent" with President Bush's views.

In any case, the letter is unlikely to damage Mr Bush's chances of securing a massive endorsement by Congress of a resolution authorising him to use force against Iraq. A core of Democrats, led by Robert Byrd of West Virginia, are vowing to use every possible procedural tactic to stall the debate. This could mean final Senate ratification will not be until next week.

Washington said that the gun attack in Kuwait on American marines on Tuesday was the work of al-Qa'ida.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: saddam; supergun; technology
This is his 2nd effort, isn't it?
1 posted on 10/09/2002 5:02:33 PM PDT by blam
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2 posted on 10/09/2002 5:03:47 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: blam
Yes, the ghost of Gerry Bull rises....

Project Babylon Supergun / PC-2

Early in the war with Iran, the Iraqi government engaged world- renowned artillery expert Gerald V. Bull, whose lifetime obsession was a the construction of a "Supergun," a huge howitzer able to fire satellites into space or launch artillery shells thousands of miles into enemy territory. While he did not accomplish that dream, Bull did manage to design some of the most effective artillery pieces in the world.

A Canadian-born astro-physicist, Bull had earlier research contracts with with the United States Army, the Canadian Department of Defense and McGill University. While working on the Canadian Velvet Glove missile project, he realized that scientific instruments could also be fired from a gun and survive if put in a proper casing. In 1962 Bull obtained US military support for the joint U.S./Canadian High Altitude Research Program [HARP].

Initially working from a facility on the island of Barbados, a small 5-inch gun was used to fire projectiles to an altitude of over 70 km, and a 7-inch guns fired projectiles to nearly 100 km. Subsequently, in Arizona a larger HARP gun was fabricated by welding together a pair of 16-inch battleship guns, forming a barrel some 30 meters long. The gun was used to fire light-weight sub-caliber discarding-sabot projectiles called Martletts. On 19 November 1966 the gun fired a 185-lb Martlet to an altitude of 180 km. The 16 inch HARP gun was intended to launch a small three stage rocket carrying a 10 kg payload into space. However, the Canadian and US governments terminated HARP funding in 1967.

3 posted on 10/09/2002 5:17:42 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
Bull was assassinated, yes?
4 posted on 10/09/2002 5:20:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
But Germany is against the war on Iraq...oh nevermind.
5 posted on 10/09/2002 5:21:18 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: blam
Saddam acquiring technology for 'long-range supergun'

I'm sure the Brady Bunch will shortly issue a press release explaining how easy it is for a terrorist to buy one of these with no background check at a U.S. gun show.

6 posted on 10/09/2002 5:22:46 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: blam

The 16 inch Harp gun

7 posted on 10/09/2002 5:24:29 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: blam
Killed in Berlin or Brussels, I think.

Supergun has problem. From time the round leaves the muzzle, its balistics are uniform. Radar can backplot the round to the gun after just two slices, and with a third slice for improved accuracy, open up the breech and the let the counterbattery fire in.

Saddam has a problem with any "superweapon;" Use it against Israel and get nuked within 40 minutes. Use it on US forces, and depending on casualites, you get a Tommahawk or a Trident in return .



8 posted on 10/09/2002 5:27:18 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: 45Auto
Cool. Gotta get me one of them superguns.
9 posted on 10/09/2002 5:28:20 PM PDT by Starrgaizr
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To: 45Auto
While working on the Canadian Velvet Glove missile

The Canadian Military really isn't that masculine is it?

Princess Patricia Canadian Light Infantry?, Velvet Glove missile?

10 posted on 10/09/2002 5:29:08 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: MindBender26
Well, I suppose the idea was that the enemy's counterbattery fire would fall about 1,000km short. If the US Army is knocking at the door, it is clearly good for a shot or two at best, to deliver a WMD or perhaps a very large conventional warhead.
11 posted on 10/09/2002 5:31:52 PM PDT by Starrgaizr
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To: blam

Saddam's first supergun

12 posted on 10/09/2002 5:48:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: blam
I recall some Canadians working on this for Saddam about 12 years ago. Seems like PBS or Discovery Channel did a special on it.
13 posted on 10/09/2002 5:54:20 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: blam
Once again it is the Germans in the lead!
14 posted on 10/09/2002 6:39:49 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: Starrgaizr
Forget about these gee-wizz delivery systems.

In 1966, I was "familairized" with the nuc warhead for U.S. 155mm howitzer. It was about 20 inches long, 6 inch diameter and weighed about 200 lbs. About 2 inches of diameter, 3 inches of length and 100 pounds were shielding to make it strong enough to be shot from the angry end of a howitzer. In other words, take away the hardening components and you have a suitcase nuc in 1966.

Take away the hardening from a W-88 in 2002, and you have a briefcase nuc that can make all New York just a memory.

Example: Let the Woggie brothers spread their prayer rug on 5th avenue at 51st street, (across the street from St. Patrick's cathederal,) make their last prayers to Allah, hug each other, touch two bare wires together and we lose the commercial center of the free world.

Who needs a delivery system? Smuggle it into US in the "Diplomatic Pouch" (actually a large trunk) for the Iraqi UN mission, promise the Woggie brothers 1,000,000 virgins in Paradise and it's all over but counting the Strontium!
15 posted on 10/09/2002 6:50:39 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: blam
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16 posted on 10/09/2002 6:54:05 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: MindBender26
I'm glad I live in the Alabama woods.
17 posted on 10/09/2002 6:54:31 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Bull was assassinated, yes?

If we tell you, the Mossad will have to kill you. ;-)

18 posted on 10/10/2002 11:03:27 AM PDT by Polybius
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