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America's Saddam (Janet Reno)
NewsMax.com ^ | September 19, 2002 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 09/18/2002 9:39:49 PM PDT by Selmo

In light of Janet Reno’s concession of defeat in Florida’s primary elections, and as an addendum to Chris Ruddy and Carl Limbacher’s current bestseller "Catastrophe,” America needs to remember the horrific evil perpetrated by then-Attorney General Reno in the first months of the Clinton presidency.

In March of 1993, I was the keynote speaker at a conference of business and civic leaders held in Indianapolis. One of those attending was a federal judge named Joe (it’s best not to mention his last name). He seemed a nice, decent fellow who not once hinted that (as I had been informed by the organizer of the conference) he was on the short list of candidates to be the new Director of the FBI. The current FBI Director, William Sessions, had announced his attention to resign as soon as the recently-inaugurated Bill Clinton found a replacement. Joe and I sat together at lunch and the conversation was pleasant – until someone at the table brought up Waco.

The ATF had assaulted the Davidian church complex a month earlier, and the standoff was ensuing with the final holocaust a month away. When I asked Joe what he thought of what was going on at Waco, his entire demeanor and body language changed, his face turned purple with rage, and he announced: "I’ll tell you what the FBI should do. Those people [the Davidians] killed Federal Agents. We should go in there and kill every last one of them.”

Someone responded, "There are children in there, Joe.” Joe brushed the comment aside with a wave of his hand. "You don’t understand. No one can get away with killing Federal Agents. They all deserve to be killed in return.”

Joe was passed over in favor of Louis Freeh, but he exemplified the mindset not just of the FBI but of so many in law enforcement in general. As anyone who has made the mistake of arguing with a police officer giving them a traffic ticket understands, the most heinous crime anyone can commit, more evil and depraved than child molestation, is Contempt of Cop.

You know the joke: a conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged; a liberal is a conservative who’s been arrested. Smart-mouth a cop and you’re asking for a world of grief. Fight back and defend yourself from police action, no matter what the action is, and your life is in danger.

This is what happened at Waco. The Davidians tried to defend themselves from an armed ATF raid, set up as a pure publicity stunt to better argue for increased funding. That the raid had a flimsy pretext and was botched was irrelevant to the Federal law enforcement community, however. No matter how and why, Federal Agents were killed and revenge had to be taken. The FBI man in charge of the siege and final death raid of April 19, Richard Rogers, thought exactly like Joe.

It is important to grasp that what happened in Waco was no accident, that the Davidians were killed on purpose in an act of revenge by the American government. And it is important to know just how they were killed, that the method of their killing was as grisly and evil as anything perpetrated by Saddam Hussein.

On the morning of April 19, 1993, the FBI smashed holes into the Davidian church complex, and began pumping in a chemical warfare agent known as CS (o-chlorobenzylidenemalononitrile). It is a solid in the form of white crystals. The FBI dissolved the CS powder in an organic solvent so they could liquid spray it in to the buildings. A lot of attention has been paid to the horror of CS, but not much on the solvent.

It’s called methylene chloride, MC. Ever bought paint remover and noticed the label warning to use it "only in a well-ventilated area”? That’s because it contains MC. The effects of MC are exactly the same as those of chloroform if you use twice as much of it. When a person breathes MC (or chloroform at half the concentration) vapor he or she first becomes irritable. Second, they lose their coordination and judgement, while their vision becomes blurred. Third, they become paranoid and hyper-excitable. Fourth, they experience auditory and visual hallucinations. Fifth, they lapse into muscular paralysis and unconsciousness.

It is this fifth stage that caused surgeons to use chloroform as the first anesthetic in the 19th century. But doctors switched to ether because of uncontrollable behavior of the patients going through the first four stages – and because of a last sixth stage. If you use only about two times as much chloroform as it takes to render someone unconscious, the patient suffers respiratory paralysis, stops breathing, and dies. It is the same with MC.

The FBI cut off the electricity to the Davidians and knew all they had for light were kerosene lamps. Yet they sprayed into their buildings hundreds of pounds of methylene chloride which makes people stumble around like they’re drunk with no coordination, with blurry vision, hallucinating and excitable: A guarantee that kerosene lamps would be knocked over and fires started.

In the presence of fire, MC vapor decomposes into hydrogen chloride, which has the same effect on any moisture-laden area of the body as sulfur mustard gas used in World War I: excruciating searing pain in the eyes, the mucous lining of the nose, and the lungs. Remember that the FBI used MC as a solvent to dissolve CS crystals. It turns out that when CS is burned, it produces hydrogen cyanide, the same gas used to execute prisoners on Death Row.

During the Iran-Iraq war, Saddam Hussein discovered the most lethal chemical warfare agent was a combination of sulfur mustard gas with hydrogen cyanide, which he used in artillery shells to slaughter thousands of Iranians. It was in effect this same combination that the FBI used to slaughter 87 men, women, and children in Waco.

The question is: who authorized the CS/MC combination? CS is not normally dissolved into a solution. Who knew about MC and could order it to be a solvent for CS? Sit down, folks, and hold on tight: Janet Reno has a Bachelor of Science Degree in Chemistry from Cornell University. Cornell has a very good chemistry department. MC is used as an organic solvent for many experiments. There is no question Reno would be very familiar with it, and was informed of its dangers by her professors. Janet Reno is America’s Saddam Hussein.

Congressman Bob Barr (R-GA) has a coroner’s photograph taken of one of the Davidian victims entitled "Doe #57.” It is of a little girl around five or six years old, her charred body burned beyond recognition and twisted in the ghastly rictus contortion typical of subjection to hydrogen cyanide.

There are few more monstrous crimes against humanity than torturing children to death in screaming pain, poison gassing them to death on purpose. That the perpetrator of this crime wasn’t tried and executed for mass homicide, but was instead lionized by the media, served out her term of office, and came close to being elected as the Democrat nominee for the Governor of Florida, says something very dark about human nature.

The slaughter of American citizens by their government at Waco was dismissed by many Americans because the people killed were "just cultists” -- like Germans who excused Nazi pogroms because the people killed were "just Jews.” As America comes to grips with the danger and evil of Saddam Hussein, and gets ready to extinguish it, America also needs to come to grips with the evil it condoned at Waco.

America condoned a vast amount of depravity during the Clinton years. Yet the depravity of Waco was the worst of all. Unless expunged through public revulsion of Janet Reno, it will remain an ineradicable stain on America’s soul.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: davidians; janetreno; waco

1 posted on 09/18/2002 9:39:50 PM PDT by Selmo
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To: Selmo
Every time I hear the phrase.."he gassed his own people"....I ALWAYS think of the Hideous Killer, Janet Reno, who has a degree in CHEMISTRY!! PURE EVIL, uncle Janet is.
2 posted on 09/18/2002 10:13:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy
"There are few more monstrous crimes against humanity than torturing children to death in screaming pain, poison gassing them to death on purpose. That the perpetrator of this crime wasn’t tried and executed for mass homicide, but was instead lionized by the media, served out her term of office, and came close to being elected as the Democrat nominee for the Governor of Florida, says something very dark about human nature."

Oh BEAST* train crashing LOUDER
Crash on the BEAST train
Come on crashing BEAST train
Yes, BEAST train crashing HARDER

"Now I've been smiling lately, thinking about the good things already here"

"And I believed it would be, something good is here to stay!"

Oh BEAST* train crashing LOUDER
Crash on the BEAST train
Come on crashing BEAST train
Yes, BEAST train crashing HARDER

"losers jump upon the BEAST train"
"Come losers all onboard the BEAST train!"

Oh BEAST* train crashing LOUDER
Crash on the BEAST train
Come on crashing BEAST train
Yes, BEAST train crashing HARDER

* peace train...cat stevens

3 posted on 09/18/2002 11:40:47 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Selmo
"Pulling it all together, what we have right here in our own country are all of the ingredients necessary for a totalitarian police state. We have a federal government that nobody in his right mind would trust, which lies to us incessantly, uses illegal force against its citizens with impunity, and collaborates with totalitarian dictators under cover of a massive propaganda campaign conducted by our supposedly free press. Our major information media are dominated by closet totalitarians who pay lip service to democracy while covertly promoting the interests of communist despots. The political opposition is made up largely of cowards who are so intimidated by our totalitarian propaganda media they are unable to offer effective resistance to even the most egregious violations of civil liberties by the corrupt Clinton regime. They have become, in the fullest sense of the term, Weimar Republicans."

"And finally, we have that which makes it all possible, a listless, docile, dumbed-down public who gape mindlessly at all of the above phenomena without the slightest glimmer of comprehension, and prattle the latest propaganda cliches dumped into their empty heads by the mainstream media."

"The Elian affair has truly given us a... glimpse---into the abyss of tyranny."

"The message that comes through loud and clear is that the system isn't working. The question that remains to be answered is whether we still possess the intelligence and fortitude necessary to fix it."

Edward Zehr(deceased...nov--2001) can(not) be reached at ezehr@capaccess.org

Published in the May. 22, 2000 issue of The Washington Weekly(defunct)

Copyright 2000 The Washington Weekly.

Now Free Access to All Stories at http://www.federal.com

4 posted on 09/18/2002 11:53:47 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
I hate coincidence. Can anyone explain to me how 3 out of the four (or 4 for 4) federal agents that were killed in the first raid were previous Arkansas state patrol men that were promoted into the DEA. They had been guards for govenor Clinton.

Can any one explain how the Dividians knew to kill only those four ex-Clinton guards out of 100 men that were part of that raid.

While I am at it can anyone explain to me how Randy Weaver's 12 year old son was able to kill the government agent with a 22 caliber rifle. I know that a 22 caliber can kill but it is rather non lethal round. Another coincidence to ponder.

Godspeed, The Dilg
5 posted on 09/19/2002 1:29:16 AM PDT by thedilg
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To: thedilg
Wow...the 1st 100 days---what an omen!

All I can see is that big smile on smucky schumer...

jason bawling her head off!

Hillary in blunderland(foster getting hit)!

Eleanor cliff slobbering over this mess!

6 posted on 09/19/2002 3:54:39 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Selmo
"That the perpetrator of this crime wasn’t tried and executed for mass homicide, but was instead lionized by the media, served out her term of office, and came close to being elected as the Democrat nominee for the Governor of Florida, says something very dark about human nature." (NewsMax)

She wasn't "lionized by the media" - far from it. Jackboot Janet was the Klintons' throwaway girl from start to finish - and the "mainstream" media treatment of her showed it! From Waco to "the photo," Jackboot Janet was always the one high Klintons Regime official being ridiculed by the "mainstream" media - not Hitlery, Algore, not Halfbright, not Shalala, nor any of their other commies and globalists.

When she finally conceded the primary this week, a syndicated cartoon that ran in a major area "mainstream" daily depicted her as the stormtrooper wielding an exquisitely-drawn MP5 submachine gun - in a parody of "the photo." Anyone else remember how many times the "mainstream" media repeatedly ran "the photo" - hardly PR for her - just the day it happened?

Jackboot Janet's "girlfriend" - the issue the Democreeps fear will hit Florida talk radio!

7 posted on 09/19/2002 4:36:47 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Selmo
The massacre of the Davidians was indeed a horrible and completely unnecessary thing. It's difficult to believe, given the peripheral circumstances, that the deaths of all of them were not what the Feds most ardently desired. (Yet power-worshippers of my acquaintance persist to this day in believing that the Davidians brought about their own deaths, without even contributory negligence from the Federal forces.)

The only alternative interpretation of the events that would bear the weight of the evidence is that the BATF (a.k.a. "F Troop") and the FBI are both so completely incompetent that they ought not to be trusted with anything more dangerous than a hatpin. Yet these are the men who presume to tell us what sort of weapons we can and cannot amass for our own purposes.

Go figure.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

8 posted on 09/19/2002 4:54:21 AM PDT by fporretto
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To: Selmo
HEY !!

You #*&#@%^&+"$ people better start showing a little respect !!!

Just because those gadrools in Florida couldn't figure out how to rig a touch screen in my favor doesn't mean you're through with me !!

I'll be back for you..........and your rotten little dog !

(Sign me ) RED PICKUP TRUCK

9 posted on 09/19/2002 5:39:15 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: genefromjersey
bttt
10 posted on 09/20/2002 9:15:20 AM PDT by f.Christian
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