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Britain blames US for failing world's poor
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 08/26/2002 | Anthony Browne

Posted on 08/25/2002 5:20:23 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
The summit is aimed at reducing world poverty

Really? I thought their aim was "saving the planet." No mention that Christ already accomplished that, but paganism continues in glass covered towers these days.

41 posted on 08/25/2002 9:56:57 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ARA
you can reply

Sorry to beat you to the story
42 posted on 08/25/2002 10:30:41 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: Pokey78
The UN has warned that unless real progress is made, the world will be increasingly divided between haves and have nots, fuelling global terrorism.

Osama had hundreds of millions of dollars. I wonder if that made him a have or a have not.

43 posted on 08/25/2002 10:31:12 PM PDT by Moonman62
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To: Eva
I would start by cutting off aid to Egypt. They told our navy that we could not use the Suez Canal for our navy.
Two billion dollars a year would help improve the pay of our troops.
44 posted on 08/25/2002 10:35:17 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: Pokey78
Funny, I don't recall us colonizing any of these third world countries, do you?
45 posted on 08/25/2002 10:51:24 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: SamAdams76
"Are there no prisons?" asked Scrooge. "Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again. "And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?" "They are. Still," returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not." "The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge. "Both very busy, sir." "Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course," said Scrooge. "I'm very glad to hear it."

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"There is nothing upon which the world is so hard as poverty; nothing which it condemns so readily as the pursuit of weath." Ibid.

46 posted on 08/25/2002 11:09:24 PM PDT by yankeedame
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To: pray4liberty
Britain to U.S.: "C'mon you blokes, give us some more money, you still haven't reimbursed us for the cost of the Revolutionary War!"

U.S. to Britain: "Tell you what: You zip it about the Revolutionary War, and we won't start dunning you for all the billions of dollars of goodies you got through the Lend-Lease Act."

47 posted on 08/25/2002 11:22:24 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: GaryMontana
I was thinking the same thing about cutting off aid to Egypt or any other country who does not want to help us fight Saddam and his terrorists.

Something good may come out of this conference, after all, if it gives us a stage to warn the world that we take the fight of good vs evil very seriously. Any country who aligns themselves with evil will be known by the company that they keep and will be ineligible for US funds.
48 posted on 08/25/2002 11:43:38 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Great reply. Why don't they suggest these countries give their countries a vote. Why don't they also suggest they have low tax rates. Why do they not critize those that steal white peoples property.

The UN's time is gone. Fumigate the building and shut it down.

I liked this part of the article. "It’s true that the American government is not doing as much as we would all like to see it do"

I sure wish we would start billing all of these European couintries for their fair share of what we are spending to fight terrorism and defend the world.

Critize is with their mouth while they pickpocket us.
49 posted on 08/26/2002 12:29:17 AM PDT by ImphClinton
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To: Pokey78
I feel sorry for Blair. It feels like he is standing alone against his cabinet. If the cabinet got its way, it would be a left wing nightmare.

Regards, Ivan

50 posted on 08/26/2002 12:31:26 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Pokey78
P*ss off to all Communist/Socialist Europeans (and their subterfuge American counterparts -- the DNC)! The good-for-nothing, sanctimonious, effete globalists...

More than time to pull out of the UN.

And don't expect the US to pull them out of WWIII (G-d forbid!).

51 posted on 08/26/2002 12:35:58 AM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: pactolusghost
People only want our money. How bout install capitalism in those crappy countries and maybe something will get done.

That would be a start. I'd maintain that you also need respect for private property, limited government, and respect for the rule of law.

52 posted on 08/26/2002 2:45:23 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Pokey78
"The best way to help the poor is not to be one of them"
--Rev. Ike

53 posted on 08/26/2002 3:02:44 AM PDT by snopercod
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Mbeki Opens Earth Summit with Call for Justice

Mon Aug 26, 4:46 AM ET
By Alastair Macdonald

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - The Earth Summit opened on Monday in Johannesburg, giving world governments driven by a mix of idealism and realpolitik just 10 days to agree on ways to haul millions out of poverty without poisoning the planet.

In a plush convention center ringed by battalions of police and troops and guarded by sharpshooters on rooftops, host president Thabo Mbeki of South Africa said it was time to scrap a world order based on the "savage principle of the survival of the fittest."

Mbeki, who called Sunday for an end to "global apartheid" between rich and poor, was elected president of the World Summit on Sustainable Development (WSSD) by delegates from nearly 200 nations.

"A global human society based on poverty for many and prosperity for a few, characterized by islands of wealth, surrounded by a sea of poverty, is unsustainable," Mbeki told the U.N. conference's opening plenary session.

Shielded by 10,000 extra police and troops from potential protests and from sprawling, crime-ridden slums, officials made scant progress over the weekend in bridging a wide gulf between hesitant rich states and poor nations demanding more aid and fairer trade.

"Everybody is very pessimistic," one Italian delegate said.

Those on the outside were scarcely more optimistic: "This meeting will contribute to the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer," said Trevor Ngwane, who campaigns against privatizing water supplies in Johannesburg's Soweto township.

"This is not our summit," he told South African television.

BUSH ABSENT

More than 100 world leaders -- with the notable exception of President Bush ( news - web sites) -- are due in Johannesburg for a day or two next week.

Protesters accuse the United States and European Union ( news - web sites) of pushing the interests of globalizes big business at the expense of the very poor. Some activists have already confronted police, who clamped down hard and have warned they will not tolerate the kind of mayhem seen at summits in Seattle, Genoa and elsewhere.

At a colorful opening ceremony Sunday, Mbeki recalled the solidarity that helped overcome apartheid in 1994: "This is a world in which a rich minority enjoys unprecedented levels of consumption, comfort and prosperity while a poor majority enjoys daily hardship, suffering, dehumanization," he said.

There was now a common need to end "global apartheid."

From Monday, it is up to ministers to push the negotiations forward. The goal is for leaders to sign off on an inter-linked package of measures ranging from providing clean water supplies and saving fish stocks to fighting AIDS ( news - web sites).

Bush's absence has provoked critics to question the commitment of the global superpower and biggest polluter to the green agenda first agreed at Rio de Janeiro 10 years ago.

Bush is too busy dealing with security problems in the wake of last September 11 and with the economy, U.S. officials say.

Washington is leading resistance to demands from developing countries for concrete commitments to higher aid payments and more access to Western import markets but says it is keen to promote worthy projects in partnership with private enterprise.

WORLDS APART?

Though not a legally binding treaty, the UN organizers hope that pledges entered into so publicly by world leaders can revive a drive for environmentally friendly economic growth that was launched 10 years at the first Earth Summit in Rio.

Most of those promises, designed to bring prosperity to poor regions like Africa without causing the ecological damage created by industrialization in the West, remain unfulfilled.

Richer nations complain that much of their aid has been squandered by corrupt or incompetent governments in the Third World and are demanding better guarantees of good governance.

"The global community has, as yet, not demonstrated the will to implement the decisions it has freely adopted," 60-year-old Mbeki said in his opening speech Monday.

"It is as though we are determined to regress to the most primitive condition of existence in the animal world, of the survival of the fittest."

The summit will concentrate the work of its thousands of official delegates on five key areas -- cleaner water, non-polluting energy, better health, sustainable agriculture and preserving the "biodiversity" of the Earth's many species.

Healthcare is on the agenda for plenary talks Monday, with delegates keen to underscore how poor health causes poverty and poverty means a lack of adequate medical care for billions.

One South African in nine suffers from HIV ( news - web sites)/AIDS, which has ravaged much of the continent, decimating the active workforce and leaving millions of children without parents.

54 posted on 08/26/2002 3:26:02 AM PDT by blam
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To: Pokey78
For a former colonial state that has a direct hand in the custody and fate of those poor, Britain is being hatingly unappologetic, arrogant and jihadesque. It is not acceptable behavior.
55 posted on 08/26/2002 3:38:26 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Pokey78; All
Aug. 25, 2002, 11:40PM - Majority of Britons want to leave country*** LONDON - More than half of Britons would like to emigrate from their homeland, fed up with the price of living and terrible weather, and would prefer to live in the United States or Spain, a survey published on Monday said. Fifty-four percent of Britons surveyed by pollsters YouGov for the Daily Telegraph newspaper said they would like to settle abroad if they were free to do so. Similar polls found just 42 percent wanted to emigrate in 1948 shortly after World War Two, and only 40 percent in 1975. Of those wanting to leave Britain behind, the United States was the most popular destination followed by Australia. ***
56 posted on 08/26/2002 4:16:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Pokey78
although it is seen as the most important world summit for years, there are growing concerns that virtually nothing significant will be achieved.

Nothing is EVER achieved at these Socialist "group-hugs". They yap for three or so days about their idyllic society and this feeds their soul till the next meeting. At least this time they are admitting it.

57 posted on 08/26/2002 4:27:21 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Pokey78
Although 65,000 delegates had been predictected to turn up

What's this? More of that British Speak?

58 posted on 08/26/2002 4:43:10 AM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: dennisw
Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff,"
Mariah Carey (now we know why she's such a sensitive actress)
59 posted on 08/26/2002 4:55:00 AM PDT by scouse
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To: scouse
I like it! Pay money to be catapulted into some starving 3rd world nation and lose weight. No need for ultra slimfast, vomiting or stapling one's stomach.

The Mariah Carey weight loss program........... 
Actually I kinda like her since she had the gumption to jump out of the mental hospital (she was in at the time) and perform at the 9-11 tribute program. She discharged previous sins by doing so.

60 posted on 08/26/2002 5:10:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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