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THE 'GAY SPIN ZONE'
American Family Association ^ | August 21, 2002 | Stephen Bennett

Posted on 08/22/2002 8:01:02 AM PDT by NYer

Day in and day out, America is getting bombarded with 'pro-gay' propaganda. It's relentless. You can't open a newspaper or magazine, listen to the radio, or turn on the television without someone, somewhere pounding the 'glories of gayness' into your brain.

Stories that would never have aired or have been published twenty years ago are now common place. 'Homosexual Male Couple Proud Parents of Quadruplets.' 'Rosie and Gal Pal Kelly Expecting.' 'Male Gay Couple Crowned King and Queen of High School Prom.' What once was considered a deviant perversion, is now politically correct -- and woe to those who oppose this new 'rainbow' morality. Those who disagree with this new 'alternative' lifestyle are called 'hate-filled, intolerant, bigoted homophobes.'

The calculated, planned 'homosexualization' of America by militant 'gays' and lesbians was encouraged well over a decade ago by homosexual advocates Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen in their book After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's (1989, Doubleday/Bantam). Kirk and Madsen mapped out a plan to 'turn the tables' on America and switch the bigotry aimed at homosexuals -- to those who would oppose them. The book plays out almost like a prophetic book of the Bible.

The Harvard-trained social scientists in the late '80s issued a call for 'gay' activists to adopt "... carefully calculated public relations propaganda." Their plan came dressed up in marketing lingo: "Desensitize, Jam and Convert." A better word to describe their call to 'homosexualize' America: manipulation. Listen to what the book says -- you won't believe it.

'Desensitization,' write Kirk and Madsen, means subjecting the public to a "continuous flood of gay-related advertising, presented in the least offensive fashion possible. If 'straights' can't shut off the shower, they may at least eventually get used to being wet." Friend, they're not talking about advertising a product here, but advertising homosexuality.

"The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome," they say. "If you can get [straights] to think homosexuality is just another thing -- meriting no more than a shrug of the shoulders -- then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won."

'Jamming' is smearing anyone who disagrees with the homosexual agenda. "Jam homo-hatred [i.e., opposition to homosexuality] by linking it to Nazi horror," urge Kirk and Madsen; associate all who oppose homosexuality with images like "Klansmen demanding that gays be slaughtered," "hysterical backwoods preachers," "menacing punks," and a "tour of Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed."

Moreover, they add, "Gays can undermine the moral authority of homo-hating churches over less fervent adherents by portraying [them] as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step ... with the latest findings of psychology. Against the atavistic tug of 'Old Time Religion' one must set the mightier pull of science and public opinion .... Such an 'unholy' alliance has already worked well in America against the churches, on such topics as divorce and abortion .... [T]hat alliance can work for gays."

The authors urged homosexuals to cast themselves as 'victims.' By doing so, homosexuals are able to "invite straights to be their protectors."

'Conversion' means "... conversion of the average American's emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media." Obviously, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Kirk and Madsen's devious plan has succeeded.

CBS. NBC. ABC. CNN. Showtime. MTV. VH1. Even the children's network Nickelodeon. A new 'gay cable channel' is in the works. Over 28 'gay' or lesbian characters or shows are currently on during so called prime time 'family hour.' All are following Kirk and Madsen's grand scheme -- and America has bit the bait. We've been duped. Like lambs, we are all being led to the slaughter.


Stephen Bennett
I hardly watch television at all anymore. I can't stand to take another painful injection of 'tolerance and acceptance.' Unlike the majority of most other 'over medicated' Americans, I refuse to take the pro-gay media's medicine any longer.

One night about two years ago I stumbled across this nation's fastest growing phenomenon -- Bill O'Reilly and The O'Reilly Factor. I was instantly hooked. 8 pm EST, my wife knew where to find me.

Who was this guy? Where did he come from? He told it like it was. He was bold, cocky -- but more importantly, he was right on the money. 9/11. The American Red Cross scandal. The celebrities. Music and today's youth. This guy confronted issues that many wouldn't touch. He was great. 'The No Spin Zone.' Bill O'Reilly was my new hero!

It wasn't long though before my conservative bubble burst and I sadly realized the homosexual movement even got to my 'champion.'

Week after week, month after month, it was obvious the man and network I trusted for 'fair and balanced news' was playing on 'both sides of the fence' on the issue of homosexuality. How could this be? While Bill would report on clearly ridiculous stories involving homosexuality, he would actually accept and promote the lifestyle in others. I began to question this 'former school teacher-turned-Superman' who truly seemed to have a sincere desire for looking out for the 'best interests of children.' But why not on this issue?

It sadly all made sense last week on The O'Reilly Factor as Bill made himself quite clear on his position.

While addressing two lesbians on camera, he told them, [paraphrased] "... Shut up. Over 90% of Americans agree with me and don't want to know about your [alternative] families."

Yet in the next sentence though he smiled, laughed, and said, "... Really ladies, we really appreciate you coming on the show. The reason we have lesbians on is because we want lesbians to watch The Factor."

Sad to say, one by one, even the most conservative crowd in the media are caving into the homosexual's sinister plan.

(As an aside, O'Reilly and Greta Van Susteren of Fox News are scheduled panelists at the upcoming National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association National 2002 Convention, September 12-15 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Among the NLGJA's objectives are to "... advocate for the highest journalistic and ethical standards in the coverage of lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender issues [in the news], and ... strengthen the identity, respect and status of lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender journalists in the newsroom).

Today, homosexuality is chic. It's in. It's big business -- and I guess so are the ratings from the homosexual audience. Yet while the media continues its bombarding of America with homosexuality, unfortunately, America's children are the ultimate casualties.

Innocent little boys and girls are having their childhood ripped from them as they are daily being indoctrinated into homosexuality via their public schools. The homosexual's main goal is to wipe out 'homophobia' in one generation -- by getting the children now.

Homosexual and homo-sympathetic teachers through 'gay' front organizations such as GLSEN (The Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network), PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays), and a host of others are unfortunately accomplishing this.

In public schools across the nation, kindergarten children are being read Daddy's Roommate and Heather Has Two Mommies -- two beguiling books promoting homosexuality and 'gay' parenting. Our little ones are being fed the lie that homosexuality is normal and OK from kindergarten on up.

Bi-sexuality is growing in popularity at a frightening rate throughout middle and high schools across America. Homosexual books such as The Rainbow Boys, featuring a story about two males (an adult and minor) having anal sex while the adult's lover is out of town, are being assigned for student reading -- on your taxpayer dollars and mine.

America's students are being encouraged to be promiscuous and try the joys of homosexual sex, even though the deadly AIDS epidemic continues to infect millions. Latest statistics by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report almost 70% of male infection of AIDS in America is due to homosexual sex.

As a man who once WAS a homosexual until I was 28 years old, with well over 100 men sexually (men whom are dead today from AIDS), I am sounding the alarm and screaming from the mountain tops, "America, wake up!" It's only by God's grace I am still alive and never contracted HIV. Yet how can people be so blind and gullible to the secular media's 'gay spin' and manipulation on this immoral and potentially deadly lifestyle?

Today, I speak nationally and share the truth about homosexuality -- how no one is born that way, how it has everything to do with the childhood and complete change is completely possible. As a father now myself of a little boy and girl, my true heart's desire and passion is for the protection of America's children and I'll do whatever it takes to protect them. My message is not politically correct and many do not like me for boldly proclaiming the truth. I've learned early on whenever you confront sin, don't expect to win a popularity contest.

Kirk and Madsen successfully laid out their game plan for using the media to be the homosexual's main propagandist conduit -- and I am using their own plan as well. However, in 'their' waters, I am definitely a fish 'swimming up stream.'

Earlier this year, my wife and I fell victim to the pro-gay secular media's hammer as we were censored and deliberately misrepresented on national television on CBS/KingWorld's The Ananda Lewis Show. They didn't like our message that homosexuality was not something one was born with and that all homosexuals could completely change. They didn't like the fact that I said I was 'gay' and I completely changed. What even bothered them more was on national television I had the 'audacity' to use those vile and 'forbidden' words Jesus, God, and the Bible. Thus, the pro-gay hammer fell and they deleted the most important part of my story -- how I went from 'gay to straight.' Millions waited to hear how one could change -- and CBS/KingWorld left America hanging. [See Related Story]

That's the secular pro-homosexual media today for you. It's all too common -- and expected. Besides, it does not further nor help their diabolical agenda.

ABC's Nightline and Ted Koppel refuse to have me on. MSNBC's godfather of talk television Phil Donahue says, 'Thanks anyways.' CNN's Larry King, 'No thanks.' Connie Chung says, 'We're not interested.' CNN's Crossfire: 'Don't call us, we'll call you.'

I know all too well what this movement to 'homosexualize' America is all about. I'm a defector -- a traitor -- a 'gay' turned straight. My story and message is one that homosexual activists and the pro-gay secular media want silenced -- and they will do everything necessary to do so. I am the 'fatal' poison to the militant move's deadly and deceitful propaganda of 'love, tolerance and acceptance.' How sad though to think that we now live in day when the tables have been turned, when good is called evil, and evil is called good. May God forgive this nation for our vile wickedness.

Make no mistake about it. America is being seduced and deceived by the homosexual agenda. Our children are being indoctrinated and many are being infected with HIV.

There is a calculated agenda out there. They are after you, but more importantly, they are after your children. Television, radio, newspapers, magazines, and the Internet -- the media is the means. Kirk and Madsen have succeeded.

Beware of the media -- the 'Gay Spin Zone.' You are not being told the 'straight' story.


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To: Houmatt; ArGee; scripter
"You are preaching to the choir here."

That's true and I ask those who see the links I post over and over again to consider that there are many lurkers here at Free Republic who may see the links for the first time. I have also received several FreepMails and replies from Freepers who tell me they've seen the information for the first time and thank me for posting it.

There are still many people who haven't heard of Fistgate - I know because I spend more time introducing people to the evils of the homosexual agenda than I do posting on Free Republic. A number of people I've spoken with, who had believed the homosexual propaganda machine, are appalled when they listen to the tape and consider the documentation I post. People are starting to realize that they've been lied to. I intend to greatly increase the number of people who realize this.

I do post a lot of information and I try to document as much as possible -- I feel the reader can decide for him/herself.

I'll be back later...

121 posted on 08/23/2002 9:10:35 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
That's true and I ask those who see the links I post over and over again to consider that there are many lurkers here at Free Republic who may see the links for the first time.

That's the main reason I post similar articles and bump and ping the articles you ping me to. There are just too many folks out there who haven't seen the information. I also send the articles to a small nation wide mailing list who in turn pass the information along (I hope). The goal is to inform as man folks as possible about the misinformation the media provides.

122 posted on 08/23/2002 10:12:48 AM PDT by scripter
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To: madg
Don't make the mistake of considering either of them to be reputable news sources. All their original content is simply interpretive bias, heavy on distortions, and with some outright lies thrown in for good measure.

I won't made the mistake of considering YOU a reputable source for anything. You still cling to the "consider the source" falacy, though not a valid argument for rational discussion. Your original claim was that NO ONE was trying to convince children and the American public that homosexuality is a 'good' thing. This statement is simply and provably UNTRUE. That you immediately turn from supporting this statement to attacking MassNews and the PRC shows me that you are utterly unable to defend it.

Yes, Fistgate happened and no amount of contextualizing can erase the fact that disgusting sex practices were presented to children as normal.

Yes, radical homosexual activists are attempting to promote their lifestyles to children in public schools in certain states. I maintain my position that if you can't acknowledge this, you are either invicibly ignorant, or else yourself a propagandist for this wicked effort.
123 posted on 08/23/2002 10:23:10 AM PDT by Antoninus
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To: madg
Oh, and by the way, thanks for bumping this thread so many times. It has now come to the attention of dozens, maybe hundreds more people than it might have otherwise.

For any of you who might be afflicted with SSAD, I pray that you will follow this link and read the material carefully. Your soul may be at stake. Beneticat vos omnipotens Deus.

Homosexuality and Hope: A Report of the Catholic Medical Association
124 posted on 08/23/2002 10:31:14 AM PDT by Antoninus
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To: madg; Antoninus; *Homosexual Agenda
"Oh… by the way… that “Kids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex” editorial? That occurred at a private conference, not in a public school class or curriculum. See Context Matters."

Context Matters - written by a lesbian who says she is "a self defined gay and lesbian activist, woman's rights activist, AIDS activist, child rights activist, and educator" who, at age 16, "fell in love with a woman for the first time and recognized it as being In Love." Also became active in the Metropolitan Community Church (of course we are familiar with some of the activities that take place in the MCC). The author's bio is located here.

Well let's see what Ms Beal has to say:

Context Matters
by Cindy Beal

Uploaded on May 2, 2000. Last updated May 4, 2000.
Media links page last updated May 17, 2000.

"My information here is a based on a number of sources, primarily Margot Ables, one of the presenters of the workshops in question. It is also based on my own research and knowledge of the political right in Massachusetts, HIV/AIDS education, effective prevention programs, and Gay Straight Alliances. Although I ordered the tape of this workshop, as offered in the email version of this article, it has not yet arrived. Because of this I am as of yet unable to provide a transcript of the workshop (and until legal questions about the copyright, distribution and confidentiality questions are answered, I will not personally provide that transcript.) I stand by the facts as presented here insofar as I have been able to discover them."


Context Matters - Last updated May 4, 2000. Primary source of information - Margot Ables, one of the presenters of the workshops. Ordered the Fistgate Tape but hadn't received it as of the May 4, 2000 update of the web site, meaning she wrote her "neutral" and "unbiased" essay without ever considering what was actually discussed at the conference. There is no mention on her site of ever actually interviewing Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman to hear their side of the story.

Even though The Fistgate Tape is on-line here, Ms Beal has, to our knowledge, never even listened to the tape. It's been over two years since her site has been updated. There is no excuse for her not reordering the tape if, in fact, she never received it. Or perhaps she did receive the tape and was so appalled by it's contents that she just dropped it. It that's the case, she should take down the Context Matters web page.

Contex Matters - pure homosexual propaganda, madg. It presents the homosexual side of the story as written by a homosexual activist. And you want us to consider that Ms Beal's writings are neutral and unbiased?

As for what occurred at the "private" Fistgate conference, I will address that in another reply.

125 posted on 08/23/2002 10:42:59 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: LO_IQ
NOT TRUE. Christ can and does change people's lives. And that includes gays and pedophiles and and and. Sometimes they go back to their lifestyle, that's true, but many do not. You don't hear about them, though, do you LO IQ? You just want to make fun of those who fail. We all fail in one or two areas of our lives until we begin to take God seriously and ask for His help and guidance.
126 posted on 08/23/2002 10:46:59 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: madg
Thanks for your reply.

As most of the important points on this issue have already been raised and discussed, I'll limit myself to this part of your response.

I strongly disagree that homosexuality is "being awarded nothing but positive spin in the media..." That's a demonstrably false statement. The internet is a medium... do you really think that ALL portrayals of homosexuality are positive?

I would say that about 95% of the portrayals of homosexuality in the media, especially in movies and the occasional TV portrayal (outside of the weekly 'Will & Grace' show)are quite positive. The dangers of contracting AIDS - far higher for homosexual males - and STD's are never mentioned. The serial sexual 'partners' - sometimes serviced through cut-outs in toilet stalls - in one evening are also rarely portrayed, if at all. Permanent life-long homosexual 'partnerships' are often portrayed as the norm, when they are not, no more than they are with hetrosexual marriages, unfortunately.

Was the coverage of Matthew Sheppard's murder "positive?" The guy was beaten to death, for Heaven's sake... how is that positive?!

Matthew Sheppard has been elevated to martyr status by the general media and his murder is a focal point for homosexual organizations attempting to have new laws passed that specifically protect homosexuals; 'hate crime' laws.

The murder of Matthew Sheppard has been used to benefit homosexuals by portraying them as frightened, threatened potential victims needing extra legal protections. Sheppard's cruel death has also been the genesis for the claim that any negative remarks aimed at homosexuals is now tantamount to encouraging the murder of homosexuals, hence even the mildest criticism of homosexual behavior is often condemned as 'hate speech'. That is a fact.

We're getting bashed constantly, both literally and figuratively. When was the last time you read a "pro-gay" portrayal in WND, CNS, or Agape Press? It is simply ridiculous to claim that all portrayals are positive.

The outlets you mention generally do not give homosexuality a positive spin but they are three out of thousands of secular newspapers, magazines, TV and radio stations that certainly are pro-homosexual.

When was the last time you read anything negative regarding homosexuals or homosexual behavior in the New York Times, the News, USA Today, Time, Newsweek, etc? Dan Rather, Peter Jennings and Tom Brokaw aren't going to be doing any negative stories about homosexuals, other than to portray them as victims needing more laws to protect them.

The major media centers in America are uniformly pro-homosexual in their coverage of homosexual issues. To deny that fact is to deny reality. That a handful of conservative and Christian news services and TV or radio stations oppose homosexual behavior does not make for any kind of balance.

Sexual orientation (homo-bi-hetero) is an innocuous human quality. There is no reason why it shouldn't be portrayed as such.

Homosexual behavior is destructive and dangerous to health. It is not innocuous when it is manifested onto young boys as sodomy by priests, teachers, coaches or relatives, humiliating them and often causing lifelong emotional problems.

It is not innocuous when the deadly virus AIDS is passed on to unsuspecting wives and girlfriends through bi-sexual men.

It is not innocuous when young people entering puberty and confused about the changes in their bodies and new emotions are taught by the authority figures in public schools that homosexuality is totally normal and even attractive. That is pure propaganda hiding behind the guise of 'information'.

The point of the article was that homosexuality is being made to appear normal as apple pie when in fact, it is not. You believe that it is and I and many others disagree. That stated, the fact that homosexuality is being covered constantly and in a positive way by most of the mass media is simply not arguable, in my opinion. That this positive portrayal is harmful to society at large as homosexuality is harmful to the individual is also clear to me. Claims that homosexuals 'just wish to be left alone' ring very false. There have been many examples posted already that show that not to be the case.

Homosexuals clearly want to have what many consider a sexual pervasion elevated to a legal and social status almost above hetrosexuality, with special laws and regulations that 'protect' homosexuals from even hearing a negative word regarding their 'preference'.

This is what Bennett was writing about; the drumbeat that media keeps sounding where nothing homosexual can ever be wrong, harmful, negative in any way, much less criticized. I agree with him. You do not and have made a spirited defense here but I believe the facts are clear. We seem to interpret those facts quite differently. Understandable.

Thanks for your input.

127 posted on 08/23/2002 11:18:25 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Jim Scott
Homosexual behavior is destructive and dangerous to health.

It sure is. Sodomy: A Public Health Risk.

130 posted on 08/23/2002 12:06:39 PM PDT by scripter
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To: madg
"It doesn’t matter, Ed, because you continue to fail to realize that it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC SCHOOL SEX ED CURRICULUMS!"

It DOES matter, madg, because two times you've held out the homosexual activist web page "Context Matters" as a reliable source of "what really happened" at the Fistgate conference. According to the information posted, the lesbian author of the web page hasn't even bothered to listen to the tape on-line. So how does she know if the conference has anything to do with public school sex ed curriculums or not? Because a conference instructor told her so?


"It’s clearly evident how much you love to talk about “Fistgate,” but it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC SCHOOL SEX ED CURRICULUMS!"

Wait and see -- documentation is in process.

(Although it will probably be tomorrow before I can finish compiling and post the reply)

131 posted on 08/23/2002 12:58:17 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: madg; GrandMoM; Houmatt; NYer; Antoninus; scripter; Gargantua; newgeezer; ArGee; Jim Scott; ...
"I find it odd how people like him insists on focussing upon inconsequential matters. Like the Kirk & Madsen book, for example... I don't know ANYBODY who has read it. I wonder if it's still available; and I wonder how pertinent it would be considering that it's 13 years out-of-date. I've never even SEEN a copy of that book."

Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) approved materials for use in its “diversity” curriculum -‘Models of Pride II’ reading list

"The Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) approved materials for use in its “diversity” curriculum were discussed. The sexually explicit and inappropriate materials are being presented in elementary school through high school. Listed below are some of these materials obtained under court order in a federal lawsuit:

Young Gay, & Proud – AlyCat Books, Alyson Publications

The Gay Quote Book – Brandon Judell – A Plume Book

After the BallMarshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen

Passages of Pride– Kurt Chandler – Alyson Books – Los Angeles

One Teenager In 10 – Alyson Publications, Inc. – Boston

What Did They Say About Gays – Allan Gould

Know About Gays and Lesbians – by Margaret O. Hyde and Elizabeth H. Forsythe, M.D. – The Millbrook Press – Brookfield, Conn.

Straight Answers About Homosexuality for Straight Readers – David Loovis

Looking At Gay and Lesbian Life– Warren Blumenfeld/Diane Raymond


132 posted on 08/23/2002 1:27:21 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
Ed, Ed, Ed. Why do you keep presenting facts? It isn't about facts any more than the atheistic position is about lack of evidence.

People will believe what they want to believe - even those who believe in the truth.

We can't reason with these monsters who want to destroy our culture with their sexual perversions that lead (according to Romans 1) to a level of greed which will destroy us all (Enron anyone?). Our only choice is to defeat them with raw political power. But be prepared for a war. I have a friend who says the pro-aborts have tried to kill him.

Shalom.

133 posted on 08/23/2002 1:30:34 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: madg
I do not recognize those individuals. (Larry Kramer and Pat Califa) Regardless, what makes you think that they are the "voice" of the "gay community?"

For someone who seems to be wanting to give the impression they know what they are talking about, you sure have slipped. If you do not know who they are or what part they have thus far played in the homosexual wrongs movement, then you are woefully ignorant. Time to hit the books.

If you REALLY want to know how the "gay community" feels about NAMBLA, read The NAMBLA Controversy. That is nothing more than a series of messages regarding NAMBLA's attempts to insert themselves into a Pride event. You will see that the "community" is universally opposed to them.

Sure they are. And that is why the homosexual community had distanced themselves from the likes of Kramer, Califa, and Judith Levine, author of a recent book that sings the praises of the sexual abuse of children.

What's that you say? They have not done that? Oops. My bad.

Let's put it this way... NO theory on sexual orientation determination has been conclusively proven. It hasn't happened. Whenever ANYONE tries to tell you what "causes" sexual orientation, they are expressing an opinion, not fact.

Actually, that defies common sense. Every single species of life on this planet is supposed to survive by way of procreation. Focusing solely on humans, this can only occur between a man and a woman.

In other words, if God had meant for men to be together sexually, he would have created Adam and Steve. And neither one of us would be here, would we?

We were NOT provided with "proof." We were provided with propaganda and anecdotes.

And how do you know this if you do not and will not bother to read it?

More importantly, my claim is the sex ed does not "[encourage] America's students [...] to be promiscuous and try the joys of homosexual sex..." as Bennett claims. ("Horror stories" from the political right notwithstanding.)

While sex education, as we know it, may not exclusively promote homosexual activity, we do know, indeed, it nevertheless does promote sex. This is seen by the fact abstinence-based sex education has directly contributed to a drop in teen pregnancies.

I said that I was open to discussing different points of view with people. Dumping propaganda is not the same thing as participating in a discussion. I use pertinent links to support my opinions. I don't just throw a bunch of links at you and say: "HERE! Read THIS!" That would be intellectually vacuous.

Your hypocrisy had not gone unnoticed.

134 posted on 08/23/2002 1:33:33 PM PDT by Houmatt
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To: madg
They haven't "reported" anything... at least not in a journalistic sense.

Don't make the mistake of considering either of them to be reputable news sources. All their original content is simply interpretive bias, heavy on distortions, and with some outright lies thrown in for good measure.

It never ceases to amaze me, how quickly I run out of patience when I see things like this.

Well, Madg, it all comes down to this: Did these things happen, or didn't they (and a simple yes or no will suffice, thanks)? And if they did not, how can you prove such is the case?

135 posted on 08/23/2002 1:49:52 PM PDT by Houmatt
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