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The Green Right? - Conservatives Taking Up Liberal Causes
etherzone.com ^ | July 26, 2002 | Lewis Goldberg

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:37:17 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Seeking to claim the environmental movement for its own, Conservatives often trumpet the fact that Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican, created the National Parks System. Despite environmentalism's modest beginnings, the movement has become a Socialist leviathan, unworthy of claim by anyone purporting to stand for the God-given rights of man.

Desperate to be accepted at any cost, conservatives have jumped onto a liberal train, hoping to arrive at a conservative destination. In a June 26, 2002 column entitled Liberating America: Environmentalists Decide Nation Worth Preserving, Steve Sailer asserts that since environmentalists have woken up to the fact that immigration contributes to overpopulation in this country, that conservatives should align with them. Not to disappoint the reader by forgetting to include an apt Hitler analogy, would we fall remiss in not supporting old Adolph in enacting slower speed limits in school zones? While conservatives may like school zone speed limits, improper alliances are still improper, even when the 'cause of the moment' is just.

As Mr. Sailer points out, many conservative property owners support environmental issues thinking they are protecting their property value by reducing pollution and restricting development in their area. Sadly, the ultimate result will be that they live in a tidy prison cell. This type of short-sighted doctrine plagues the entire environmentalist movement: a tree cut down can never regrow; the extinction of an animal through hunting will throw the ecological balance of the planet off forever; and a gallon of water flushed down the toilet never comes back. In rebuttal: trees are a crop and can be replanted [there is no more vigorous planter of trees than lumber companies;] animals go extinct without human intervention, and have for millennia; and we have the same water on this planet we had at creation...it just goes around and around [there are no water 'shortages,' just logistical problems in delivery.]

Besides being short-sighted, environmentalism is pure envy, and a violation of the 10th Commandment. The right to property as 'God-given' is established in Scripture, and it is an essential function of government to safeguard it. When government becomes the engine of property rights violation, it becomes the 'enemy of the people' rather than the protector of their rights, and must be destroyed [or otherwise forcibly altered.] A people cannot long abide with the rape of the fruits of their labour - indeed, our Founding Fathers came to this same conclusion, at a point when they were far less encumbered than us.

Like environmentalists, King George III was mindful of limited resources, which is why he wanted distribution of as many resources as possible limited to him. The leaders of 'green organisations' cry for protecting wildlife/water/trees/dirt, but what they really want is power. Environmentalist leaders like to be invited to talk shows and consulted as 'experts' for news segments on " the destruction of the environment" and such like nonsense. While environmentalist movement leaders don't have direct control over natural resources, influence over the people who do control them translates into access to the halls of power and the fame and money that comes with it. Were there no fame or power or money in supporting 'the environment,' most of the movement's leaders would move on to pastures greener for their picking, so to speak.

In Every Situation, Follow the Money

Just today, I went to lunch with a carload of guys from the office. The conversation quickly turned to the recent corporate accounting scandals. Since this was my first social contact with this particular group, I went easy on them. The conclusion of the conversation went somewhat like 'all this scandalous mess comes of greed.' I might have added that even more greed comes not only from the people who fooled the market long enough to make their own fortunes, but from the people who look to government to 'do something.' If anything is 'done,' it will be paid for with money taken from the pockets of them who want nothing to do with the mess. As usual, government makes everyone equal...equally miserable.

Not to range too far afield, the key concept in understanding anything that happens involving organised groups of people is to figure out what the group members' interests are: in other words - 'follow the money.' Whoever first uttered that phrase was 'right on' in more ways than he could have known. Environmentalism has nothing to do with the environment, campaign finance reform has nothing to do with reforming campaign finance laws, Homeland security has little to do with providing security to the homeland [something that could have been done within weeks of 9.11 if it were.]

We enjoy comfort and the quiet security of simply going about our business, just as our colonial forefathers did before the Revolution. They were, however, stirred to action eventually, just as we will be one day. Woe be to us the day so-called conservatives align en masse with so-called environmentalists, for if there is but a small minority willing to vote for candidates who support private property, then we are guaranteed a tyranny never seen in America - Waco and Ruby Ridge notwithstanding.

Just as when one man is not allowed to say what he wishes, none of us really have freedom of speech, so too are we all without property rights if one man has his taken away for any reason other than real debt owed. The law is supposed to be timeless and not subject to fads of the day, but today we have 'pop justice,' in which unfashionable activities are prosecuted as crimes, while fashionable yet heinous activities go unnoticed.

The Ten Commandments long served as a solid foundation for Western Law. Let us pray for a return to them as such, before the only recourse left is a repeat of our 1776 and 1861 struggles against tyranny. Those two wars had vastly different outcomes, but they had one terrible thing in common: a lot of people met an early grave.

Are we ready to stand up for our rights?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: enviralists; environmentalism; epa; greenparty; malthusianism; propertyrights; socialism
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1 posted on 07/19/2002 10:37:17 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Pure bull! No Conservatives that I know of are jumping on the Enviro-wacko steamroller. They're too busy trying to save the few remaining property rights they haven't already lost. Wishing for this won't make it happen. Nice try, but no go. Sorry!
2 posted on 07/19/2002 10:43:22 AM PDT by holyscroller
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To: Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; sauropod; madfly; farmfriend; countrydummy; Issaquahking
Opinion ping!?
3 posted on 07/19/2002 10:46:50 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: holyscroller
I'm an environmental conservative.
4 posted on 07/19/2002 10:48:05 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Bump.
5 posted on 07/19/2002 10:48:08 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: holyscroller
This is already true - there are "conservative" environmentalists, but there aren't a lot of them out there. The author is correct in saying that conservatives have nothing to gain from an environmentalist alliance, but I just don't see a broad alliance developing in the first place. There are too many differences, and even the immigration issue is probably moot now since environmentalism is shifting to a global scope.
6 posted on 07/19/2002 10:51:51 AM PDT by billybudd
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To: holyscroller
There most certainly are conservative environmentalists, for example, Peter Huber: http://www.hardgreen.com

The difference between them an the tree-sitters is that conservative environmentalists actually want to improve the environment.

The enviro-nazi's couldn't give a tinker's damn about the planet, or the little bunnies and duckies that claim to be saving. What they want is control over your life and your property.
7 posted on 07/19/2002 10:57:44 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If we defined environmentalist as anyone who doesn't want to see his environment damaged, then almost every sane person is an environmentalist.

The difference between people is their opinion of what consitutes damage to the environment.

8 posted on 07/19/2002 10:58:41 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The conservation issue was stolen from the Conservatives and used as a club to beat over the heads of the GOP. It's time to take the issue back.
9 posted on 07/19/2002 11:02:32 AM PDT by Consort
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To: *Enviralists
Index Bump
10 posted on 07/19/2002 11:02:58 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The thought of an alliance with enviro-wackos leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but the far-fetched possibilities of change from within by means of infiltration amuse me. I often consider "going undercover" and reporting from within some of the more liberal organizations. Most people I meet are a little shocked when they learn of my conservative views and confused that I don't fit their stereotypical image of a conservative. I just don't know if I could stomach some of the things I might hear...my irish temper might get the best of me.
11 posted on 07/19/2002 11:04:02 AM PDT by occam's chainsaw
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It needs to be pointed out that Bush was able to get some Land and Water Conservation Fund money re-allocated to his environmental programs in 1992 and in 1993, it will be $100 million. These programs shift the money into the private propery owners hands.

The Landowner Incentive Program is for the small landowner and began as state program in Texas.

12 posted on 07/19/2002 11:07:20 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: biblewonk
An environmentalist is someone who thinks that the safety of the environment is more important than the interests of human beings. All industry causes pollution. Environmentalists, therefore oppose all industry. Sane people are willing to tolerate pollution in order to have a modern civilization.

If you really want to protect the environment, entrust its care to those who have an interest in keeping it viable: farmers, loggers, ranchers and sportsmen.

Alliance For America

13 posted on 07/19/2002 11:16:40 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Black Agnes; countrydummy; madfly; Issaquahking; Grampa Dave; farmfriend; c-b 1; ned13; ...
God I hope not!!!!

This is precisely why i could not vote for the Shrub in Nov. 2000. He barely knew there was an issue with "roadless" areas.

Wait a minute... Now i get it. We have to do this "for the children." 'Pod

14 posted on 07/19/2002 11:35:12 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: Tailgunner Joe
the enviro-conservative should not surprise us...i thought the world as we knew it ended when Pitchfork Pat hooked up with "workers of the world unite" Lanora...anything after that is just gravy
15 posted on 07/19/2002 11:49:00 AM PDT by BS_Husker
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To: Tailgunner Joe
farmers, loggers, ranchers and sportsmen.

A key difference between a conservative environmentalist and a nut case environmentalist is the idea of harvest. We don't feel that it harms and in most cases it helps the environment to harvest from it. Responsible harvesting promotes future harvest, white tail deer are a perfect example. We might all agree that poisoning the water by using too much fertalizer on corn is bad but you and I are not offended by the corn field in general. A nut is offended by a human footprint in a 'pristeen'(sp) wild grass prarie.

16 posted on 07/19/2002 11:53:14 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
I believe those of us Who do care about the environment in an intelligent manner are called "Stewards of the Land" (ie...see my profile). As I've said before the Greens don't give a damn about the environment, the country, or it's people. They are the U.N.'s useful idiots.
17 posted on 07/19/2002 11:59:42 AM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: biblewonk
I've always been a little unclear on how drilling wholes in the earth hurts the environment. Do the Eco-nuts think the rocks are alive and that oil is mother Earths life-blood?

The truth is that it's not the holes they are concerned with. It's the oil wells on top of them. More oil well means more commerce, more progress, more civilization. The Greenies hate civilization and wish the whole world was one big wilderness, free of humans. They want to deindustrialize the U.S. because they are Communists.

18 posted on 07/19/2002 12:01:42 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm a conservitive conservationist.

To me an evironmentalist follows the creed of "evironment first, foremost and always". By contrast a conservationist is someone who thinks that we should manage and preserve wild life and their habitat - but not at the expense of people.

Besides, I like having public lands where I can go and shoot Bambi - 'cause he is tasty!

19 posted on 07/19/2002 1:50:11 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: billybudd; dinasour; biblewonk; Carry_Okie
The latest in true environmental conservation, private ownership.

Natural Process
A book worth the reading.

20 posted on 07/20/2002 12:10:27 AM PDT by farmfriend
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