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'Arrogant' Bush shakes British bedrock of Atlantic Alliance (Eurosnot alert)
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 06/30/2002 | John Simpson

Posted on 06/29/2002 5:09:04 PM PDT by Pokey78

In 32 years of reporting on international affairs, I have never seen Britain and the United States more separated from each other: not during the terrible last years of the Vietnam War, not during President Reagan's Iran-Contra dealings or his espousal of the crackpot Star Wars system.

The way George W Bush's administration deals with the outside world is affecting even the most traditionally pro-American elements in British society.

On two occasions last week I met senior civil servants from government departments in London who would normally be regarded as the natural bedrock of support for the Atlantic Alliance. In both cases I found open contempt for current American policy, especially towards the Middle East.

You might expect a certain amount of this from the Foreign Office, or from ministries which have to deal with the US over trade. Not from the government departments I was dealing with.

It's easy enough to spot particular elements in this change of attitude. One is President Bush's new line on Yasser Arafat and his support for the determination of Israel, under Ariel Sharon, to break up what little remains of the Oslo Accords.

It took the Bush administration a good deal of internal negotiation to come up with its ringing endorsement of the Sharon line, but leading British civil servants I spoke to about last week's speech by Mr Bush regarded it as - I quote - "puerile", "absurdly ignorant" and "ludicrous".

These are private opinions, but I suspect that they come from people who would never have said anything as strong about American policy in their lives before; certainly not to an outsider such as myself.

I should stress that these were not people I would regard as covert Guardian readers, nor members of the pro-Arab tendency that so many outsiders believe exists within the Foreign Office. They were mainstream, small-c conservative figures whose work, in its different ways, sometimes depends on maintaining good relations with the Americans.

It is possible to spot some common elements here. There is, for instance, a rooted dislike of the "arrogance" - not my word, but that of a senior and much respected civil servant - that enables President Bush ("a bear of very little brain" - ditto) to announce to the Palestinians who should and shouldn't be their leader.

And there is a parallel impatience at the "stupidity" (ditto) which will unquestionably ensure that Palestinians of all kinds will now feel obliged to support Yasser Arafat as their leader, for better or worse.

But it goes much wider than the Middle East. There is a feeling in large swathes of British society that Americans now believe, post September 11, that they have a licence to throw their weight about.

Next week we will have the latest round in the trade war that has blown up between America and Europe over issues such as steel, where Washington reserves the right to impose tariffs on some foreign imports and pay huge subsidies to sections of its own ailing industry, while lecturing the outside world about the duty to support free trade and allow US goods into their markets at preferential rates. The moralising is starting to grate: and it looks like hypocrisy.

Take another, completely different example. The creation of an international criminal court is something that people across the world have worked towards for decades.

Suddenly, it exists and has the power to try suspected war criminals; but the US, nervous that its own citizens - from a private soldier who kills people on a peace mission to, shall we say, Henry Kissinger - might be dragged before the court, is demanding immunity from arrest or prosecution for any American troops involved in United Nations peace-keeping duties.

To be honest, I can't quite work out whether this is because the Bush administration dislikes the UN and its peace-keeping role almost as much as it does the international court, and wants to undermine them; or whether it comes primarily from a sense that Americans are not as other people, and shouldn't be subject to the same rules. For obvious reasons, other countries find this distinctly annoying.

There are all sorts of other irritants. Over the next two months, for instance, we will be reminded again and again how the United States, the world's leading polluter, is trying to wreck the proposals for controlling the gas emissions that are threatening the entire global climate.

This is one of the issues that will come up strongly at the Johannesburg summit in August, 10 years after the Rio summit which President Clinton so effectively undermined.

And amid all this, poor old Tony Blair has to try to stay on friendly terms with a president whom even some of his own ministers and civil servants regard with contempt. It won't be at all easy.



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1 posted on 06/29/2002 5:09:04 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78; aculeus; Orual
... crackpot Star Wars system.

Thank you, Mr. Simpson, for sparing me the effort of reading farther.

2 posted on 06/29/2002 5:20:15 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Pokey78
Mr. Simpson, put some ice on it.
3 posted on 06/29/2002 5:23:39 PM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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To: Pokey78
Neener, neener, neener!

Talk about Superpower Envy.

4 posted on 06/29/2002 5:25:33 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Pokey78
A Eurosnot in a Eurosnit.
5 posted on 06/29/2002 5:25:53 PM PDT by Truthfairy
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To: Pokey78
..From the land that gave us the arrogant likes of Montgomery and Burgoyne, both legends in their own minds.
6 posted on 06/29/2002 5:28:34 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: Pokey78
Wait,I thought GW was the same as Al Gore or Clinton...and these guys loved Clinton..
7 posted on 06/29/2002 5:32:31 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Pokey78
Another example of Euro withdrawal symptoms from their addiction to Arafat.
8 posted on 06/29/2002 5:32:34 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Pokey78
Wait,I thought GW was the same as Al Gore or Clinton...and these guys loved Clinton..
9 posted on 06/29/2002 5:32:42 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Pokey78
There is a feeling in large swathes of British society that Americans now believe, post September 11, that they have a licence to throw their weight about.

More sour grapes from Brits who resent the fact that they no longer own half the world.... daring to criticize another nation for throwing their weight around.
What a bunch of boring hypocritical little snots.

10 posted on 06/29/2002 5:33:21 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Pokey78
"...demanding immunity from arrest or prosecution for any American troops..."

Not demanding. Stating it. Unless George W. Bush has compromised on this, too.

11 posted on 06/29/2002 5:33:45 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Pokey78
England is the strangest place. There are no more masculine men that the British warriors, and no more effeminite men than the British intelligencia. It's almost like they determin who is going to be who at birth and do some sort of testosterone transplant.
12 posted on 06/29/2002 5:34:57 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Pokey78
"Take another, completely different example. The creation of an international criminal court is something that people across the world have worked towards for decades.

Well, we haven't. Only the idiot Clinton saw this as good for America.

"Suddenly, it exists and has the power to try suspected war criminals; but the US....is demanding immunity from arrest or prosecution for any American troops involved in United Nations peace-keeping duties."

Yup..that's the deal. Our soldiers are immune from this kanagroo court or you Eurosnots are on your own.

Thank you...and God bless you President Bush. What an absolute joy it is to have an American president again.

13 posted on 06/29/2002 5:36:51 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Pokey78
Granted, I've disagreed with a boatload, perhaps most of President Bush's policies. However, this writer happens to take offense with three or four of Bush's actions, and those actions happen to be some of the few things that I applaud Bush for. 1) Support for Israel. 2) Claiming that Arafat doesn't want peace. 3) Saying no to the ICC. 4) Saying no to Kyoto. 5) Steel Tariffs (I'm not a free trader, because I believe that it hurts the American economy, especially if it is done with the third world. Not exactly Europe, mind you, but I agree that tariffs are good for America).

Is this a left wing rag of a paper? I'm curious.

14 posted on 06/29/2002 5:42:36 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Pokey78
Join the EU and you start to become French.
15 posted on 06/29/2002 5:48:09 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Pokey78
This hit piece is too generalized, and too focused on what some faceless bureaucrats think, to draw any blood. I am surprised that this rather lame creature gets print space on as prestigious a publication as the one that afforded him space here.
16 posted on 06/29/2002 5:51:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
I thought we won our independence in the the Revolution. You would never know it, the way we have let England use us over the years. I really don't mind a split, especially with the likes of Blair.
17 posted on 06/29/2002 6:07:44 PM PDT by meenie
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To: Pokey78
Someone please tell the Germans that we wouldn't object if they went ahead with the invasion of England.

I'm really beginning to hate Limeys

18 posted on 06/29/2002 6:24:02 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: dighton
My thoughts exactly.
It's amazing how my "Journalist" are Rocket Scientist.
19 posted on 06/29/2002 6:24:56 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: Pokey78
Does anyone know what the Brits Tariff rate on our steel currently is?
20 posted on 06/29/2002 6:43:50 PM PDT by BJClinton
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