Deputy Shoots, Kills Defendant In Milwaukee Courtroom

WISN news 12 ^ | May 29, 2002 | Unknown

[LostThread]

Since when is Waukesha exempt from trash that lives there too?.....Milwaukee county aint that bad.....I'll agree with you on certain areas, however for the most part it's not so bad...

[LostThread]

btw....what did Waukesha do with all that expensive riot gear they bought for all those "big bad bikers" that never caused a problem....*giggles*

and what's up with the entire downtown being a one way street?...real forward thinking by the city planners eh?

[wardaddy]

Very very rarely is any defendant shackled at a jury trial....something about being prejudical. I think that monster who killed Polly Klass was restrained....that was an exception.

[Catspaw]

Very very rarely is any defendant shackled at a jury trial....something about being prejudical. I think that monster who killed Polly Klass was restrained....that was an exception.

You're right, wardaddy. Defendants are rarely shackled in front of a jury, and until he was convicted, he was still presumed innocent. Nowadays, they use stun belts, although it looks like this guy was supposed to be wearing one and wasn't.

And I don't want to think about the scum that killed Polly Klaas. But I will never forget what he said at sentencing. How Marc Klaas restrained himself is beyond me. I would not have been able to.

[BlueLancer]

In my early days as a court reporter with the 1st Cavalry Division, we had just finished an aggravated child molestation/rape/sodomy case in which the accused had been convicted against his pleas of not guilty and sentenced to what I recall to be in excess of 30 years.

The courtroom (and my office) and the main legal office were in different buildings, but I could see the SJA office from my window. While in my office typing up the post-trial paperwork, I was looking out my window when suddenly I saw people una$$ing the building through the windows and the doors.

The accused's wife had returned to the area with her husband's gun, looking for anyone connected with the case, particularly the judge advocate prosecutor. From what I later found out from the MP's, it appears that, unknown to her, her husband had removed the firing pin from the .38 revolver sometime prior to this, but she came in the door screaming and pulling the trigger. Even though the gun never did fire, she just kept pulling the trigger ... click ... click ... click.

Probably not so funny if I had been in the building, but, watching it across the way from the courtroom and looking back at it across time, it sure was funny watching these "portly" JAG officers coming out of the windows.

[Catspaw]

Everyone knew the guy was an escape risk, and precautions had been taken, including the perp wearing a stun belt. But today, lo and behond, he didn't have the stun belt on. So he tried to escape by crashing himself through a third story window. Unable to break the window, he wrestled the bailiff(Sheriff's deputy)for the gun. You all know the rest of the story.

But here's the corker: The debate is now being centered on whether the bailliffs should be armed while in the court! I kid you not. This is, after all, Milwaukee.

I saw the story & a our local sheriff (Brown County/Green Bay) interviewed last night.

I believe he wanted to exchange his jail ID with someone else prior to the verdict and, in other statements, was quite clear about his intentions--he was going to escape one way or another.

But not having heavy security at the verdict? That's unimaginable. That's when things are most tense, and the time most likely that the defendant, his family and/or the victim's family are going to erupt. There should have been a dozen court security officers (sheriff's deputies) in that courtroom. He wasn't wearing a stun belt? I started swearing a LOT, including the ever popular WTF, especially after finding out he wore one during the trial. He may have been able to jump into the jury box in an attempt to get to the window, but with a stun belt, he would have been a twitching mass on the floor. Someone screwed up badly--and it wasn't the cops in the courtroom. It was the person in charge of court security. And having been in the Brown County Courthouse for what seems like a zillion hearings & trials (I'm a paralegal), not having that courtroom bristling with deputies is beyond belief.

And I saw the series of articles in the Milwaukee Journal today--and yes, the chief judge is debating whether the bailiffs and court security officers should carry guns in the courtroom. They have an online poll. I voted to keep the guns there (DUH)--and the poll needs a damn good freeping.

[BlueLancer]

Freeped POLL

[Tuor]

My guess is that he was not a white guy.

White guys aren't named 'Laron.' Draw your own conclusions.

Tuor

[lentulusgracchus]

And Europeans complain about our being cavalier in applying the death penalty.

Wonder if their papers will complain in this case?

Wonder if they'll try to make the argument that, if our society were truly civilized (i.e., totally disarmed and prostrate before the bureaucrats), there'd have been no guns in the courtroom, everything could have been settled nicey-nicey, and we could have gone on to support this clown at state expense for the next 15-20 years.

Except for the sheriff's man being wounded, this came out pretty okay, it seems to me.

[StriperSniper]

Works for me!

[mafree]

This dirtball in milwaukee also had 6 illigitimate kids by 3 women..

Don't forget- #7 was on the way. This slime isn't even getting any sympathy on Black talk radio today and he really deserves none. The only thing the community can do is get to others like him and help them do something better with their lives.

[mafree]

The only charges that stuck were 2 misdemeanors. They say he felt frustrated and falsely accused but somehow he managed to get off. I also heard he couldn't read or write. Good work Milwaukee Public Schools.