89 are indicted in online porn case

The Dallas Morning News ^ | March 19, 2002 | By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT / The Dallas Morning News

[constitutiongirl]

They've arrested someone here in Richmond,VA. also.

[Aliska]

I was a spam warrior for awhile but it takes too much time to go after them all and they just get another account.

[Palladin]

Any abuse of defendeless children is terrorism in my book. Do you know what it means to be terrified? To be in restraints while adult men do unspeakable things to your body? Wasn't Jesse Dirkhising terrorized?

I look with jaundiced eye on any FR member who attempts to minimize the brutality and sheer evilness of sexually abusing children. Makes me wonder what's in YOUR cache.

[Palladin]

What's his name? I think these perverts deserve to be outed on the net. If the FBI doesn't want to give out the list, that's fine. I will name names that appeared in my local paper today.

Candyman perverts from Central PA are:

Robert D. Gift of Lewisburg. Bucknell alumsus. Guidance counselor in the Warrior Run School District.

Christian Alander of Selinsgrove

Keith Reibsome of Danville. Pleaded guilty in the Middle Disrict Court. Will cooperate and sing like a bird and give up all his pervert buddies.

Eric Shields--PA--guilty plea

In other areas:

Rev. John Hess, Catholic priest, Sacred Heart Church in Florissant, MO.

Rev. Thomas A. Rydzewski Catholic priest, associate pastor at the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen in Baltimore, MD.

John J. Schmidt Jr., elementary schoolteacher, Dolgeville, NY.

Shannon Timothy Macauley, school busdriver, Constable, NY

HATS OFF TO YOU, Mr. Ashcroft, Mr. Gebhardt, and all agents involved. We parenta and grandparents thank you for taking this scum out of civilized society, and for protecting our children from these domestic TERRORISTS!!!

[MeekOneGOP]

More.................
Midland man arrested in porn scandal
http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/032002dntexporn.91b13.html

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Midland man arrested in porn scandal

03/20/2002

Associated Press

MIDLAND, Texas - Another Texan has been arrested in "Operation Candyman," a nationwide child pornography sweep announced earlier this week.

Joel Kinzie Oldham III of Midland was arrested on Wednesday and charged with knowingly receiving visual depictions of children engaged in sexually explicit conduct and knowingly possessing the material, according to a news release from the FBI.

If convicted, Oldham faces up to 15 years in prison.

Oldham is the ninth Texan to be jailed in the sting that resulted in arrests across the nation, including that of an Athens man and seven others from Southeast Texas.

The effort targeted members of three Internet discussion groups on Yahoo Inc.'s Web site.

The FBI expects to arrest at least 50 more people by week's end as it breaks up an Internet child-pornography ring that allegedly included two Catholic priests, six other members of the clergy, a school bus driver and a civilian law enforcement employee.

One of them, Mark Bates, an unemployed truck driver from Athens, is accused of being the news groups' moderator, or leader.

Bates, 32, faces a detention hearing at federal court in Tyler on Thursday.

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Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/032002dntexporn.91b13.html

[strela]

Yes, they do. But the places that spammers can go and spam with impunity are getting fewer and fewer. SPEWS, MAPS, there's all sorts of resources and blocklists out there that are making a difference in the war against the spammer.

Essentially, unchecked spamming will eventually render e-mail useless as a communications medium, and I'm not ready for that to happen.

And yes, the wall starts to feel good after a while as you beat your head against it ...

[Aliska]

You are right and I hate to see them win. When I get my new computer, if I get my new computer, which will mean I can spend more time with it turned on without crashing, I may resume my efforts to fight spammers.

[strela]

Hope to see you back in the saddle soon. Rest up and enjoy life for a while!

[Palladin]

Thanks for the latest report, Ming. Let's get the names of all these creeps up here, where 10,000 readers a day will see them. These people are the dregs of society. They should have a big M for molester branded on their foreheads, like in that old Peter Lorre movie.

[Godel]

Interesting, about the mindless comments ..I must have missed the trial and conviction of Westerfield, I thought in this country he was innocent untill proven guilty in a court of law...

Yeah right, and Clinton is innocent because he wasn't found guilty, just like OJ.

Innocent until proven guilty applies to the government, not private citizens. Private citizens are entitled to view evidence and make up their own minds.

[Godel]

So what if they're charged with more than one count? Why is it any skin off your nose? Why are you defending pedophiles? Identify with them, perhaps? (Remember, you started the flame war when you called me "stupid," so I'm sure you can take it.)

It's skin off my nose because it endangers society and children. If you punish armed robbery more than murder, you'll see more murders. There is supposed to be a proportionality in the justice system, not only to protect the accused but also to protect society. In a criminal knows he'll get 100 years for armed robbery and only 5 for murder, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize you'll have a lot more dead people. Obviously you want neither, but you want to prevent murders more.

I'm sorry I said you were stupid, I should have said "God your comment is stupid". I apologize.

[Catspaw]

Thanks for the apology, and I apologize as well.

The problem is that if Westerfield is convicted, he's going to end up on either death row or doing life without parole. The persons who were charged will probably do little time, some minimal probation and a fine, via plea bargains. Within a short time, they'll be right back at it. That's the proportionality. The people who aren't charged will go somewhere else on line for their child porn. The deterrance factor is the publicity surrounding the cases, not the charges themselves. If I remember the numbers correctly, the Justice Dept. has charged somewhere around 100 or so people out of 2,000 people, a very small percentage of those who have actually been accused of possession of child porn. They've scattered around the indictments to different states, of course, but someone who is involved with this child porn ring plays the odds, they're not even going to get charged.

[constitutiongirl]

I heard it on the radio and they didn't give a name. I also think they should have their photos plastered all over the place.

[Palladin]

Yes, photos, on the Post Office wall; maybe we should put these creeps on the milk cartons--that way we may not have to put so many innocent kids' faces on the cartons.