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Researchers confirming AIDS passed to humans from chimps in Central Africa So Much For Bill Cosby
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Posted on 01/17/2002 12:38:00 PM PST by Outraged At FLA

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Jan. 17 — The chimpanzee version of the AIDS virus appears to be extremely rare in wild chimps, which suggests the apes evolved a way to deal with the killer virus generations ago, researchers said on Thursday. The study also confirmed earlier theories that AIDS passed to humans from chimps in Central Africa, they said

SCIENTISTS HAVE long known nonhuman primates carry their own version of the AIDS virus. But so far, it has been found only in captive chimpanzees. No one knows how prevalent or geographically or genetically diverse the virus is in chimps in the wild.

The new study is the first to find an HIV-like virus in a wild chimp. And the chimp was found in a different part of Africa than they researchers had suspected.

This particular type of chimp in Tanzania could not be the source for human AIDS, because the viral strain the researchers found is too genetically different.

But now that they’ve proved virus testing can be successful in the jungle without disturbing the endangered species, the scientists are beginning the next key step: tracking different chimps in an even more remote part of Africa, where the virus is thought to have jumped from animals to man.

The research, published in Friday’s issue of the journal Science, involved chimp experts including Jane Goodall, who has studied the animals for 40 years, and groups working in Central and West Africa.

THE ORIGINS OF AIDS

“It obviously confirms and extends the theory on the origin of AIDS,” said Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama, who published a theory in 2000 of the origin of HIV in chimps and who led this week’s study.

The report is important because it proves Hahn’s team developed “a very good way to, without invading or disturbing ecologically, study the evolution of the virus in this species,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the National Institutes of Health’s leading AIDS expert. “It’s part of the big picture of really tracking down the origin.”

“To find this virus for the first time in the wild opens a window of opportunity,” added Hahn’s co-author, George Shaw of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

The closest relatives of the human AIDS virus are those infecting chimps in West Central and not in East Africa, Hahn said.

There are three different groups of HIV in humans, and while it is widely accepted that people probably caught the virus from chimps — probably by hunting and eating them — it was not known if several different subspecies of chimps living in different parts of Africa had perhaps passed on the virus independently.

Hahn first determined that HIV originated in chimps by testing the blood of a captive female, who lived with the chimp simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV) for decades until her death from other causes.

Unlike human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), SIV does not have any apparent ill-effects on chimps.

But most captive chimps come from a small group of West African chimps. “We knew that if the study were to make sense, we had to look in the wild,” Hahn said in a telephone interview.

“The chimp range is huge. We had only a teeny little bit of information from captive chimps from one corner of Africa.”

But this posed a problem.

NEED FOR GENTLE TESTS

“We had to think long and hard ... given that chimps are so endangered. We had to look for noninvasive way of screening.”

To do that, they took tests that find antibodies to the virus in human urine samples and adapted them to use on chimp leavings in the forest. Then they teamed up with primatologists studying wild chimps that had come to tolerate their presence.

“We said ‘Listen, we would really like to do this screening — would you be willing to collect fecal and urine samples for us?,”’ Hahn said.

They worked with groups at the Gombe Research Center in Tanzania, in Uganda and in the Tai forest of Ivory Coast.

“We documented that this can be done, that you can study these chimpanzees in the wild without touching them, without bothering them,” Hahn said.

They screened 58 chimps and found just one infected with SIV — a healthy 23-year-old male in the Goodall colony in Tanzania. That’s farther east than tests on captive chimps had led scientists to believe the virus extended.

But the virus he was infected with was genetically very distant from human HIV.

This led Hahn to an interesting thought.

“The individual in Gombe is perfectly healthy. He is a young male in his prime. There is no indication that he is suffering from anything,” she said.

SIV may be a very old disease in chimps she said — unlike HIV, which probably first appeared in this century.

“Chimps may have 10,000 years of living with this virus,” Hahn said. “It may have been pathogenic at first, but evolution bred that out.”

In other words, the most deadly virus would kill its host early, while less deadly versions would survive for longer in longer-lived hosts.

“Chimps probably went through something several thousand years ago that we are going through now and they somehow learned how to handle it. They are at a point where we want to be — but we don’t want to wait 10,000 years.”

Chimps are between 98 and 99 percent genetically identical to humans, so the hope is they can be studied to find ways to make AIDS less deadly in people.

The chimp’s viral strain clearly isn’t very virulent — none of his sexual partners is infected, Hahn said. By studying why, maybe “we can get some clues that will help us combat HIV better in humans,” she said.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; aids; centralafrica; chimpanzees; chimps; epidemics; helixmakemineadouble; hiv; ivorycoast; pandemics; plagues; populationcontrol; siv; taiforest; tanzania; thesniffles; uganda; ugandal
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So much for the Bill Cosby theory that the US created AIDS to kill off Blacks.. Ahh well..
1 posted on 01/17/2002 12:38:00 PM PST by Outraged At FLA
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2 posted on 01/17/2002 12:41:19 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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So it was the newer small pox vaccine developed from apes that caused AIDS to break out? It would explain why Haiti and those African regions were hit first and hardest, because they were vaccinated later on with that vaccine?
3 posted on 01/17/2002 12:43:20 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Outraged At FLA
Yeah, the U.S. created aids to kill of blacks but introduced the virus in Africa.

For as funny as that guy used to be now he's just an A$$hole.

4 posted on 01/17/2002 12:43:37 PM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: Bikers4Bush
Well, accoriding to this article, either the US did that about 20,000 years ago, or perhaps Mr. Cosby knows that the US has a time machine.... :P
5 posted on 01/17/2002 12:45:33 PM PST by Outraged At FLA
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while it is widely accepted that people probably caught the virus from chimps — probably by hunting and eating them —

Not unless these people are eating fresh-killed chimp sushi. I don't think the HIV virus would survive in a cold or cooked chimp.

More likely cause: being bitten by an infected chimp while trying to pull him out of a live trap.

6 posted on 01/17/2002 12:47:29 PM PST by r9etb
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The study also confirmed earlier theories that AIDS passed to humans from chimps in Central Africa, they said

Moral of the story: don't share bananas with chimps!

7 posted on 01/17/2002 12:47:40 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Outraged At FLA
So Sam Kinison was right.............
8 posted on 01/17/2002 12:48:29 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: Outraged At FLA
This is junk science.
9 posted on 01/17/2002 12:48:45 PM PST by tallhappy
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"This is junk science"

Ok Bill..

10 posted on 01/17/2002 12:50:52 PM PST by Outraged At FLA
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To: Outraged At FLA
BUMP
11 posted on 01/17/2002 12:51:57 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: r9etb
No--more likely cause: beastiality.
12 posted on 01/17/2002 12:52:04 PM PST by basil
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To: Outraged At FLA
In the immortal words of the late Frank Zappa:

"Who's plooking the monkeys?"

13 posted on 01/17/2002 12:52:28 PM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
LOL! Help....on the floor.....can't reach the keybbboooarrdd.......
14 posted on 01/17/2002 12:52:32 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Outraged At FLA
And it is not breaking news.

It is a self serving press release written up by PMSNBC.

Check this:

“It obviously confirms and extends the theory on the origin of AIDS,” said Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama, who published a theory in 2000 of the origin of HIV in chimps and who led this week’s study.

It's a press release for her crackpot theory, an infomercial.

15 posted on 01/17/2002 12:52:37 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: r9etb
On C-Span a couple years ago, a writer was talking about his theory on the origin of HIV. During the early 1950s, chimpanzee kidneys were used to produce polio vaccine in Africa for Africans. His theory was that this would be a possible way for the virus to cross the species barrier.

I don't know if his theory panned out or not.

16 posted on 01/17/2002 12:53:05 PM PST by Gladwin
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To: r9etb
More likely cause: being bitten by an infected chimp while trying to pull him out of a live trap.

Or, while butchering the chimp, getting its blood on a cut or open sore on the catcher's body

17 posted on 01/17/2002 12:53:28 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Uh, what's that? Don't share your banana with a chimp?
18 posted on 01/17/2002 12:54:43 PM PST by D2BAH
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
ROTFLMAO....!!!!!!......You are BAD.
19 posted on 01/17/2002 12:55:31 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: D2BAH
Well, I wish Bill C would comment on this? Oh wait, then he wouldnt be able to foment racism, I forgot..
20 posted on 01/17/2002 12:56:49 PM PST by Outraged At FLA
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