Posted on 04/09/2024 4:57:42 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
[Australia and it’s 25 million people are going to fight who?]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Darwin
China is probably spending 4%, and Australia’s still undersized military budget is being way oversold. However, as in WW2, it just needs to hold on until Uncle Sam shows up over the horizon.
Closer to home, Australia’s swarthy neighbors have never made a secret of their goal of unifying the Austronesian lands which, in Sukarno’s eyes, included not just the lands immediately south and southeast of China, but Australia and New Zealand. Given Indonesia’s demographic heft, increasingly Islamist bent and economic strides, a day of reckoning may be coming, far closer to home than the Aussies would like.
And the sad thing is Australia’s Reds (i.e. its labor movement) played a part in ensuring an end to the Dutch East Indies.
International condemnation was swift, and on July 30, Australia brought the conflict to the attention of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), identifying the Netherlands as the violators of peace. Subsequently, Australia raised the broader matter of Indonesia’s decolonisation in the United Nations. Two days later, the UNSC ordered a cease-fire and established a committee to facilitate a truce and a resumption of negotiations.]
2.5 million Chinese ground forces, including reserves. Australia 42k.
Chinese Air Force has 2500 fighters, the Aussies have 100.
And then compare missiles and nukes? Forget about it.
They would get utterly obliterated. This isn’t something that bravado of the WWI and II Aussie era can even come close to overcoming.
Scary how much Chinese influence is in Australia.
The military of OZ and the U.S. may not be the same as the 20th century.
Because they were gullible enough to turn their country back into a penal colony during the scamdemic.
[With the UK? The UK is going to fight China? They couldn’t even repeat the Falklands war. The Indian Navy and Japanese navies are far more powerful than the British navy that surrenders within sight of it’s own warships. And they are going to do it from across the planet? LOL
China would wipe them out in an afternoon.]
Aussies will do fine using the latest American gear against China’s mountains of balky junk. As a member of ABCA Armies and the Five Eyes, Australia will get up to the minute updates on Chinese troop movements based on the the best sigint Uncle Sam can muster up. Besides, Aussies don’t need to beat China - they just have to hold it off long enough for the US cavalry to show up.
The best way Australia could get hard again and discourage any foreign entity, is to purge women and woke from politics, and go back to what Australia was back in the day.
Like system restore, go back to the last functioning point in time. if they did, they would wind up with a nation even massive China would avoid.
But they won’t.
On paper, yes, but look at history. China has never been good at projecting it’s power outside it’s borders.
[2.5 million Chinese ground forces, including reserves. Australia 42k.
Chinese Air Force has 2500 fighters, the Aussies have 100.
And then compare missiles and nukes? Forget about it.
They would get utterly obliterated. This isn’t something that bravado of the WWI and II Aussie era can even come close to overcoming.]
The Aussies really have no hope of repulsing Chy-nah on their own should Xi decide to grab it after successfully obtaining Taiwan.
A lot of fan fiction to unpack there. The Russian Navy is simply proving the old naval dictum that ships must NEVER dual with shore based guns, updated to missiles of course.
The main Russian navy bases are within range of British navy missiles run by American targeting.
In an actual open war between China and the west, Chinese space and missile capability will take out sigint satellites, sea cables and com links on day one. Pine Gap would be gone.
And wait for the US Cavalry to ride to the rescue? You think the US military trannies and woke are ready for a land war with China?
This isn’t WWII where convoys would load and sail.
Think we would trade nukes and lose US cities over Pine Gap? Nope...
Silliness. You are living in WWII, and that was a different time.
One of the most pathetic consequences of the Branch Covidian capitulation in these former British colonies is that overwhelming majorities of those peasants effectively created countries that aren’t worth defending anymore.
This is great news, globally our allies are improving their war capabilities.
I much prefer this direction of the last 2 years over what it had been.
[On paper, yes, but look at history. China has never been good at projecting it’s power outside it’s borders.]
https://timemaps.com/history/china-2500bc/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires
The issue for Chinese empire builders, as with their counterparts across time and space, is wars, while exciting and ripe with the promise of lasting personal glory, were expensive. This meant squeezing the populations they ruled over. Men and resources were requisitioned at swordpoint. This often led to army mutinies and large scale popular revolts led by the dregs of society.
The end of Chinese ruling houses has often led to the extinction of anyone connected with them. Nonetheless, the relentless expansion of the Chinese state at the expense of the carcasses of numerous neighboring states in Northeast Asia suggests that the prospect of violent death and dynastic extinction has not deterred many Chinese conquerors.
But let's look at history - every nation has certain characteristics, and they don't just change.
China has never been able to project it's powers outside it's boarders.
When have they successfully been able invade another country? They couldn't even successfully invade puny Vietnam, after Vietnam had been at war for over ten years.
China has been invaded many times, but they've never been able to invade anywhere else.
Mongolia was a backwater's backwater, and they had one of the largest empire's in history. China had a glorious civilization, and they were lucky when they stopped outsiders from taking over.
What was their most successful military expedition? Korea vs. the U.S.?
While it is possible China could say, occupy Australia, I have my doubts as to whether they could pull it off. It would be unprecedented in their history. And they have plenty of their own demographic and cultural disasters coming.
Are you serious? You think God-less Communism is benign, versus being driven by a lust for power, as its master is (as well as the Western Left)? The Chicom's are more patient however.
China Has Two Paths To Global Domination..the signs that China is gearing up to contest America’s global leadership are unmistakable, and they are ubiquitous. There is the naval shipbuilding program, which put more vessels to sea between 2014 and 2018 than the total number of ships in the German, Indian, Spanish, and British navies combined. There is Beijing’s bid to dominate high-tech industries that will determine the future distribution of economic and military power. There is the campaign to control the crucial waterways off China’s coast, as well as reported plans to create a chain of bases and logistical facilities farther afield. There are the systematic efforts to refine methods of converting economic influence into economic coercion throughout the Asia-Pacific and beyond...
Not least, there is the fact that a country that formerly disguised its ambitions now asserts them openly. China has entered a “new era,” Xi announced in 2017, and must “take center stage in the world.” Two years later, Xi used the idea of a “new Long March” to describe China’s worsening relationship with Washington. ...Beijing has invested heavily in advanced air defenses, quiet submarines, anti-ship missiles, and other anti-access/area -denial capabilities necessary to keep U.S. ships and planes away from its shores so that it can have a freer hand in dealing with its neighbors.- https://carnegieendowment.org/2020/05/22/china-has-two-paths-to-global-domination-pub-81908Likewise, https://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/australia-growing-reach-china-s-military
[Think we would trade nukes and lose US cities over Pine Gap? Nope...
Silliness. You are living in WWII, and that was a different time.]
Whether the US nuclear umbrella means anything, nobody knows. What is certain, however, is that if it does, the Chinese leadership will be cremated alive. That’s not necessarily a bet these men are willing to take. They are willing to kill us all. It’s the return fire that’s a sticking point.
No, I think it’s anything but benign. But I think it’s assets in Australia. Call them traitors, or what have you, are a much more immediate threat.
Neither could the US until it also developed and expanded military.
China has entered a “new era,” Xi announced in 2017, and must “take center stage in the world.” Two years later, Xi used the idea of a “new Long March” to describe China’s worsening relationship with Washington...China cannot be a true global power if it remains surrounded by U.S. allies and security partners, military bases, and other outposts of a hostile superpower. One reason this scenario seems plausible to Americans is that it so closely resembles their own path to primacy. - https://carnegieendowment.org/2020/05/22/china-has-two-paths-to-global-domination-pub-81908
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