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NATO weighs a plan to provide long-term military help to Ukraine as Russian troops assert control
ABC News ^ | April 3, 2024 | LORNE COOK Associated Press

Posted on 04/03/2024 4:55:44 AM PDT by McGruff

NATO is debating a plan to provide more predictable military support to Ukraine in coming years as better armed Russian troops assert control on the battlefield, the organization’s top civilian official said Wednesday.

“We strongly believe that support to Ukraine should be less dependent on short-term, voluntary offers and more dependent on long-term NATO commitments,” NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said before chairing a meeting of the alliance’s foreign ministers in Brussels.

Earlier on Wednesday, Ukraine lowered the military conscription age from 27 to 25 to help replenish its depleted ranks after more than two years of war. A shortage of infantry combined with a severe ammunition shortfall has helped hand Russian troops the initiative.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: nato; notanatomember; ukraine; undeclaredwar; whatconstitution
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To: McGruff

That Ukraine pay off scam must be huge to keep dumping money into it.


21 posted on 04/03/2024 6:27:36 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: everyone
There's a minor hiccup with this plan.


22 posted on 04/03/2024 6:28:18 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: BobL

If this is true and I have no reason to believe it’s not, unless the Ukrainian army puts up a fierce resistance then Kharkiv will get a real pounding from Russian artillery.

If the Ukrainian Army pulls back to another defensive line, there would be no reason to level the city.

I heard in the same report that Odessa is the next city after Kharkiv to be encircled and taken.

We’ll see, but never fear the 60 billion that eventually will be sent to them by the US will save the day.


23 posted on 04/03/2024 6:37:27 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: BobL

If this is true and I have no reason to believe it’s not, unless the Ukrainian army puts up a fierce resistance then Kharkiv will get a real pounding from Russian artillery.

If the Ukrainian Army pulls back to another defensive line, there would be no reason to level the city.

I heard in the same report that Odessa is the next city after Kharkiv to be encircled and taken.

We’ll see, but never fear the 60 billion that eventually will be sent to them by the US will save the day.


24 posted on 04/03/2024 6:37:27 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: McGruff

I’ve said from spring of ‘22 on, we’ve been blundered into a generational, multi trillion dollar new Cold War. The only thing that’s changed is rather from the Black Sea to the Baltic, it is now from Black to Barents Sea. Your grandchildren will be paying to keep this arms race raging.


25 posted on 04/03/2024 6:40:27 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hal ogen

wonder how many of the children of those “in charge” in ukraine have been conscripted?
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Much written about this. Notice how many top Ukie government officials are being posted OUTSIDE Ukraine? From Zhaluny to the currently deposed Ukie Security Chief? It has been discovered many top Ukie officials have sons/ daughters sent to England for schooling, jobs, etc…with grifted US taxpayers money no doubt.

They obviously see the handwriting on the wall….


26 posted on 04/03/2024 6:51:39 AM PDT by delta7
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To: srmanuel

“I heard in the same report that Odessa is the next city after Kharkiv to be encircled and taken.”
Yep, Odessa is also in the dark (along with a few other big cities in the east), but not Kiev, Lviv, or anything else in the Western Ukraine.

“We’ll see, but never fear the 60 billion that eventually will be sent to them by the US will save the day.”
LOL, of course the problem has never been the money, but the fact that the West never bothered to prepare for WW3, so their production lines support only attrition losses (such as firing shells during training). So pretty much anything they give to Ukraine results in the West weakening itself, and, as we see, there are limits to this suicidal tendency.
But the money does have one effect that helps Ukraine. It frees up Ukrainians (mostly much of the remaining men there) to go to the front line and die for the Neocons! as they can replace non-military functions with imports of people and goods.


27 posted on 04/03/2024 6:52:48 AM PDT by BobL (The USA was not built with DEI and it will not survive being forced into DEI)
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To: srmanuel

“ eventually will be sent to them by the US ”

And sent right back to Members of Congress and Senators who vote the right way.


28 posted on 04/03/2024 6:54:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: hardspunned

“ we’ve been blundered into a generational, multi trillion dollar new Cold War.”

It was on purpose.


29 posted on 04/03/2024 6:55:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: McGruff

NATO Plans it

The USA carries the plan out

American taxpayers foot the bill

Europe sits on it’s collective ass and criticizes the USA


30 posted on 04/03/2024 6:58:40 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Bur he is at the head of the line waBut)
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To: blitz128

“Notice Russia dropped age as well, humm”

The Russians are going to punish the Ukrainians enough that there will be a revolution that will kill as many NATO troops and spooks as they can. Mark my words, the Ukraine done.


31 posted on 04/03/2024 6:58:55 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.q)
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To: srmanuel
We’ll see, but never fear the 60 billion that eventually will be sent to them by the US will save the day.

More money will always be the solution as long as our politicians (plus their relatives and pals) get their skim, kickbacks, payoffs and no-show jobs.


32 posted on 04/03/2024 7:04:15 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Bur he is at the head of the line waBut)
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To: srmanuel

Odess is the main goal. Once the Russians have that port city and the Ukraine is reduced to a rump state, watch the Europeans carve up the rest. The Ukraine will be no more.


33 posted on 04/03/2024 7:06:03 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.q)
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To: srmanuel
I heard in the same report that Odessa is the next city after Kharkiv to be encircled and taken.

It's on the other side of the river. The issue for the Russians is that their convoys will get attacked as they try to get supplies across the river. So they're more likely to take Kyiv first before Odessa.

34 posted on 04/03/2024 7:14:00 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: wildcard_redneck

Marked


35 posted on 04/03/2024 8:34:46 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: dforest

Tit for tat?
The claim Ukraine is lowering conscription age ie this is a sign of desperation, Putin just signed decree also lowering age.
Is that “tit for tat” or the truth.

One is bad the other is meh?


36 posted on 04/03/2024 8:36:17 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: JonPreston

Not sure your point, one way or another he is, they have no bullpen.

Personally I hope he does, weekend at Bernie’s, or plodding along and Trump will destroy him

But since Putin has said he preferred Biden, then I guess you would like the support


37 posted on 04/03/2024 8:38:37 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128

I’m not supporting Biden’s foreign policy, you are.


38 posted on 04/03/2024 9:18:17 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

I am supporting this policy, like I supported the PACT act you know the one that helps veterans and service members, guess I shouldn’t have, by your logic

Other than that can’t think of any good he or his handlers have done.

I will let the vets know that because Biden signed the pact act, they 100% support xiden and EVERYTHING he has done

All or none, got it


39 posted on 04/03/2024 1:00:55 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128
I am supporting this (Biden) policy

That's what I said.

40 posted on 04/03/2024 1:04:24 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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