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NATO weighs a plan to provide long-term military help to Ukraine as Russian troops assert control
ABC News ^ | April 3, 2024 | LORNE COOK Associated Press

Posted on 04/03/2024 4:55:44 AM PDT by McGruff

NATO is debating a plan to provide more predictable military support to Ukraine in coming years as better armed Russian troops assert control on the battlefield, the organization’s top civilian official said Wednesday.

“We strongly believe that support to Ukraine should be less dependent on short-term, voluntary offers and more dependent on long-term NATO commitments,” NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said before chairing a meeting of the alliance’s foreign ministers in Brussels.

Earlier on Wednesday, Ukraine lowered the military conscription age from 27 to 25 to help replenish its depleted ranks after more than two years of war. A shortage of infantry combined with a severe ammunition shortfall has helped hand Russian troops the initiative.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: nato; notanatomember; ukraine; undeclaredwar; whatconstitution
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Years?
1 posted on 04/03/2024 4:55:44 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

I’m surprised Ukraine isn’t dropping its recruiting age to 15 right now.


2 posted on 04/03/2024 4:59:54 AM PDT by DownInFlames (p)
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To: McGruff

Are they not now almost devoid of available military-aged men?


3 posted on 04/03/2024 5:02:06 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: McGruff

I hear Ukraine has begun evacuating Kharkiv, various countries are telling the citizens to get out.

I don’t know if this is true, given all the propaganda that gets thrown out, if it is true, Kharkiv is a large major city and would be a big blow to Ukraine.


4 posted on 04/03/2024 5:02:23 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: McGruff

Years?
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Obviously a typo , they meant decades


5 posted on 04/03/2024 5:02:50 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: DownInFlames

Notice Russia dropped age as well, humm


6 posted on 04/03/2024 5:08:00 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: McGruff

C’mon Afghanistan was good for 20.
The Forever War Fever grips the Swamp.
To the last Ukrainian !


7 posted on 04/03/2024 5:09:54 AM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: blitz128
The goal is to get The Biden to the November election.

Thank you for your support.

8 posted on 04/03/2024 5:18:08 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: McGruff

Why join NATO when you can get it for free?


9 posted on 04/03/2024 5:19:40 AM PDT by dforest
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To: blitz128

You Zeepers always play the tit for tat game. Never fails. LOL


10 posted on 04/03/2024 5:21:00 AM PDT by dforest
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To: McGruff

Oh, BS.

The NATO discussion is centered around a runaround of a probable Trump 2nd term.

The abc piece is gaslighting spin on a different facet of globalist control of warfighting resources (read as “$$”) with a distinct odor of DS.

See:

Trump-proofing weapons for Ukraine: Allies consider moving arms group into NATO

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/02/allies-consider-moving-ukraine-arms-group-into-nato-to-shield-it-from-trump-00150151


11 posted on 04/03/2024 5:23:43 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: McGruff

“...as better armed Russian troops assert control on the battlefield”

Oh, when did the Russian’s “assert control” on the battlefield. I thought Ukraine was winning, at least per the Western media?

(see how the media does that, a pivot at least as slick as Bill Clinton at Ron Brown’s funeral)


12 posted on 04/03/2024 5:28:25 AM PDT by BobL (The USA was not built with DEI and it will not survive being forced into DEI)
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To: srmanuel

“I hear Ukraine has begun evacuating Kharkiv, various countries are telling the citizens to get out. I don’t know if this is true, given all the propaganda that gets thrown out, if it is true, Kharkiv is a large major city and would be a big blow to Ukraine.”

There are highway pictures out of Ukraine that looks like a Houston hurricane evacuation, complete with inbound traffic lanes carrying outbound traffic.

As it is, no need to order an evacuation as Russian has PERMANENTLY (as in many months or several years) shut down power to Kharkiv by taking out the control centers and generation facilities at its major plants and also taking out the high voltage transformers that feed the city. So not much reason to stay there in any case.


13 posted on 04/03/2024 5:34:28 AM PDT by BobL (The USA was not built with DEI and it will not survive being forced into DEI)
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To: McGruff
NATO meddling is costing millions of Ukrainians their lives and livelihoods.

Absent elections there is no way to gauge popular support for continuing a war they can't possibly win.

14 posted on 04/03/2024 5:49:05 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: McGruff

War by committee? LOL


15 posted on 04/03/2024 5:49:22 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: McGruff

But I thought Ukraine was winning?


16 posted on 04/03/2024 5:54:38 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: McGruff

Funny article, Ukraine, as we know it, will not be around in its current form. Hopefully, NATO will not be either.


17 posted on 04/03/2024 5:56:29 AM PDT by delta7
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To: BobL

Presumption IS Reality. The Bible says “As a man thinkth, so he be.” If we think we are invincible so we are. The only problem will be when hit in the face by reality. Its that old Baghdad Bob thing all over again.


18 posted on 04/03/2024 6:00:30 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. )
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To: delta7

I wonder how many of the children of those “in charge” in ukraine have been conscripted? I bet the number is extremely low. Typical for fascists.


19 posted on 04/03/2024 6:00:59 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: JonPreston
The goal is to get The Biden to the November election.

No.

The goal is to prevent Donald Trump from functioning as Commander in Chief of the US military, which, under this scheme, would be under NATO command at least with regard to Ukraine. They have said so openly, and they want a plan which will last through January 31, 2029, and have also said this openly.

You may be sure that, all throughout the government, similar plans are being drawn up to render a Trump victory empty - a "government of one", while the REST of the government functions as it does now, under the command of hidden individuals with no right to command the Executive Branch.

20 posted on 04/03/2024 6:16:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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