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British tanks are designed for military trade shows but not for the battlefield?
Twitter ^ | 13 Mar24 | Kim Dotcom

Posted on 03/14/2024 7:23:57 AM PDT by delta7

British tanks are designed for military trade shows but not for the battlefield? According to this Sun report the biggest ‘challenge’ for the ‘Challenger’ tank are ordinary puddles by Ukrainian standards. “It keeps getting stuck.”

Excellent video.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: tanks
The extremely heavy weight (70 tons plus) of western tanks has contributed to their demise. More than half of the Challengers have already been eliminated by Vlad, and as we are witnessing, the same fate is occurring with the US M1’s “ wunderwaffe”…..what a waste of taxpayers money.
1 posted on 03/14/2024 7:23:57 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Drones of all sorts are what is changing warfare. And all the yap about nukes is only a small part of this modern killing machine. Bio warfare is just as destructive to human life, yet leaves the plants and trees alone.


2 posted on 03/14/2024 7:34:31 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: delta7

I don’t know that it’s so much stuck as it is high centered.

The tracks can’t get traction.

Poor crew training.


3 posted on 03/14/2024 7:36:30 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: delta7

Given the ever improving technology of drones, GPS, stealthy hand held missiles, etc, etc, land armored vehicles are obsolete iron coffins. As are naval surface combatants and helicopters over a modern battlefield.


4 posted on 03/14/2024 7:38:01 AM PDT by allendale
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To: delta7

“and now the’re waiting for a recovery vehicle”

Don’t like the sound of that. Depending on their location, I’d think their adversaries would be ready for a twofer takeout when that recovery team arrived.


5 posted on 03/14/2024 7:41:51 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: delta7

“More than half of the Challengers have already been eliminated by Vlad”

Exactly 14 Challengers have been sent to Ukraine, and it does not appear that any of those have been hit. Has Vlad somehow been blowing up British tanks in the UK? Awfully clever of him.


6 posted on 03/14/2024 7:55:46 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: delta7

Ukraine mud is wonderful stuff.

Gotta be a native to know how to deal with it.

Got the t-shirt.


7 posted on 03/14/2024 7:58:39 AM PDT by dagunk
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To: dagunk
Got the t-shirt.

With the mud that simply won't wash out?

8 posted on 03/14/2024 8:29:26 AM PDT by null and void (There’s only one thing that’s for sure. Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you)
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To: delta7

Wrong again, only 1 Challenger is reported destroyed.


9 posted on 03/14/2024 8:37:54 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Zuriel

Soon enough, they’ll be outfittging tactical nukes to drones, and everything will ‘change’, once again.


10 posted on 03/14/2024 8:41:11 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: dagunk

Nazis had he same problem in spring and fall.


11 posted on 03/14/2024 8:44:46 AM PDT by DownInFlames (p)
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To: delta7

No that’s Russian tanks . Russian tanks are only great in the World of Tanks online game ,LOL


12 posted on 03/14/2024 9:15:14 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: delta7

this is a much shortened clip from the original
they were able to pull it out using another Challenger


13 posted on 03/14/2024 9:51:06 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: DownInFlames

Heavy tanks, narrow treads...


14 posted on 03/14/2024 9:53:48 AM PDT by null and void (There’s only one thing that’s for sure. Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you)
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To: blueunicorn6

I thought all the tanks didn’t work in the spring mid season in Ukraine. Not sure many tanks work in 5 ft of mid. Also, I would think they would have options to move to wider tracks. Doesn’t smell right.


15 posted on 03/14/2024 10:04:51 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: delta7

In the clip, it looked like they were crossing a swamp. Don’t know much that works in the swamp....


16 posted on 03/14/2024 10:24:24 AM PDT by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: delta7

Tanks have lower ground pressure than wheeled vehicles half their weight. The problem from this video isn’t with weight (which, if it doesn’t result in excessive ground pressure — which it doesn’t — is a red herring), or too narrow tracks (first time I’ve ever head that excuse), it’s low ground clearance.

If you bothered listening to the video, that one isn’t “stuck in the mud,” it’s high-sided because it’s being driven through ruts that are too deep. That’s a driver problem, which might be an offshoot of fear of mines. They wouldn’t be high-siding if they’d gone through the open field. But that open field might also be mined.

Regardless, it’s not the tank’s fault.


17 posted on 03/14/2024 9:00:31 PM PDT by threefinger
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To: threefinger

I stand corrected. That’s a tank commander problem, because the driver only steers where he’s told to.


18 posted on 03/14/2024 9:03:09 PM PDT by threefinger
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