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To: Petrosius

So Russia wanted to base US warships, tanks, missiles, fighters and bombers, missile defense, troops, in Ukraine by expanding NATO into there?

What did Biden mean in 1997 when he said this? https://www.facebook.com/rishibagree/videos/1997-the-only-thing-that-could-provoke-a-vigorous-and-hostile-russian-response-w/1131428724346357/

So Russia withdrew from the Ballistic Missile Treaty?

So it’s ethnic Americans that speak English, go to American churches... living in Eastern Ukraine which have lived with a boot on their neck?

So the $>150 billion USD spent didn’t go to Ukraine (early on and is far from inclusive): https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/INTERACTIVE-What-weapons-is-US-sending-Ukraine-.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80

Russia has an argument to be there, what do you have?


13 posted on 03/11/2024 12:19:34 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
If this were truly all about NATO expansion, as the Russian apologists claim, then let Putin offer to withdraw from Ukraine in return for Ukrainian neutrality. He will not do that because the real reason for this war is that he does not recognize Ukraine as an independent country from Russia, as he has stated publicly for years. What was the excuse for the real start of the war: the Russian invasion of 2014? NATO expansion was not on the table and was not given as an excuse.

As for the so-called oppression of the Russian minority in Donbas, it did not happen. Despite all the wild claims to the contrary, all the language law did was mandate the use of Ukrainian in state institutions and its use alongside Russian in the media. Stop believing in Russian propaganda.

18 posted on 03/11/2024 12:31:25 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Red6

Uh, your source there cites $54 billion.

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/INTERACTIVE-What-weapons-is-US-sending-Ukraine-.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80


73 posted on 03/12/2024 12:03:02 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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