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Putin threatens to go nuclear — because his military is suffering badly in Ukraine
New York Post ^ | Feb. 25, 2024 | Jonathan Sweet and Mark Toth

Posted on 02/26/2024 1:07:28 AM PST by canuck_conservative

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To: Justa; Right_Wing_Madman

You don’t say! I’m guessing a. Madman here already knew that and b. you have no sense of the ironic.


61 posted on 02/26/2024 6:40:53 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: bert
In their ignorance, they continue to believe that Russia is a super power.

Russia has by far the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world. And unlike the United States they have been maintaining and modernizing these weapons of mass destruction. This is indisputable and like it or not makes them a “super power” and very dangerous. Russia is headed by a leader whose motives may be questionable but who has his full faculties. For contras, Biden is a demented old corrupt fool who is led around by the nose by whoever his handlers are. You are the one who is ignoring reality and showing off your ignorance.

62 posted on 02/26/2024 6:48:39 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: canuck_conservative

ESAD fake Tsar.
Poot will go down in the history books as The Grand Idiot Tsar of Russia. Who killed tens of thousands of Russians in Ukraine. All for Poot’s schizo delusions of being a Tsar of old. Ruling over the great Russian Empire of vodka swillers.


63 posted on 02/26/2024 6:55:32 AM PST by dennisw (In Trump we trust. All others pay cash)
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To: AndyJackson

Irony? Like invading, murdering, kidnapping peoples of other nations yet claiming to be the victim of...

of...

globohomonaziLGBTQIP

Preying upon the ignorance and gullibility of fickle Western TikTok minds does not provide an excuse for Putin’s invasions.


64 posted on 02/26/2024 7:03:55 AM PST by Justa
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To: canuck_conservative

They are killing each other by the thousands over there. Historic enemies. Let them duke it out. Putin is not going nuclear. My , Lord above, it’s all a game of thrones.


65 posted on 02/26/2024 7:34:54 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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To: canuck_conservative
>Looking forward to another year of Russia failing!<

Being a bloodthirsty globalist zeeper, what you're really looking forward to is another year of human beings being shoved into the meat grinder as fuel for another MIC forever proxy war.

Why aren't you looking forward to PEACE TALKS?

BTW, keep your nose in Canada.

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66 posted on 02/26/2024 7:37:08 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
canuck_zeeper starts today with a propaganda article…

Oh yeah, that one is still smarting from having his butt handed to him yesterday. 😂

I see the zeepers are infesting this thread with their typical comments about “Putin worshippers” and other such nonsense.

I honestly don’t think anybody here worships or admires Putin. (Personally, I think Putin is as corrupt as Biden and Zelensky are.) I think there are people here who dislike and disdain the zeepers and justifiably so.

This is a conservative site. Smart people don’t like seeing billions our tax dollars flowing to a known money-laundering operation with no accountability whatsoever. Anybody who can’t see what’s going on here is as dumb as…well, a zeeper.

67 posted on 02/26/2024 7:37:39 AM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Redmen4ever

I think there is a strong case to be made for that. I do agree with your
premise 100%. Peace through strength has stood the test of time.


68 posted on 02/26/2024 9:05:08 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: fireman15

Putin knows that he is a dead man within minutes of a nuclear launch.

Your scare tactics are foolish.

Putin has a problem in that his weapons might not really work and he can’t guarantee that they will really function.


69 posted on 02/26/2024 10:02:52 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: canuck_conservative; UMCRevMom@aol.com

IMHO, Putin has already won, he has:

- Crimea
- the land bridge to Crimea
- the land bridge flanks
- control of the Sea of Azov

Ukraine - winning - is the ability to manage to hang on to what it has, now.

Ukraine’s notion that a loss of the country is worth throwing everything into “winning over Russia,” is not a worthwhile path.

Russia and Ukraine are going to have to learn to get along - probably a thing for a future generation.

Russia remains a state sponsor of communism, fascism, socialism, terrorism around the world. Because, supporting divisions among:

- other countries
- other cultures, and
- other peoples

. . . is a Russian thing, part of its coercive defense nature - kind of like an unhappy customer of McDonald’s, throwing cups and spoons and napkins all around, thrashing about, raising a ruckus in places, NOT Russia[n].

Russia *is* a bear.

Russia does not want NATO near Russia, but Russia must itself, stay away from NATO . . . yet marching toward NATO (Poland, etc.) is not going to be good for Russia.

Not helping - hot heads:

- Moscow
- Kiyv
- Victoria Nuland (plus Obama, H. Clinton . . .)
- muslim bro (speaking of proxy’s)
- Venezuela, Cuba (puppet states)
- drug cartels (speaking of proxy’s)


70 posted on 02/26/2024 10:22:46 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

IF Russia was really winning, they wouldn’t need this desperate gaslighting campaign full of lies and propaganda

so, the fact that we DO have this Russian gaslighting campaign happening, is confirmation that Russia is actually losing


71 posted on 02/26/2024 10:27:31 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Russia is both, winning and losing.

It’s a socialist dictatorship thing, win and lose at all costs to everybody but the dictators.


72 posted on 02/26/2024 11:07:24 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Justa
The true warmongers are the Russian nationalists and their gullible dupes who come on this board posting support for Russian military expansionism. “Oh, Putin just said he’s for family values” [so it’s ok for him to destroy cities and kidnap civilians].

The Putinistas here like to pretend that all real conservatives are OK with Putin invading Ukraine. When reality is that the Putin regime is the same as the Soviet USSR, except with Putin approved oligarchs this time around. One proof is that Putin often mentions Joe Stalin, as being a great Russian. Similar to how Xi pimps Mao Tse Tung.

73 posted on 02/26/2024 1:48:31 PM PST by dennisw (Why is the rabbit unafraid? Because he's smarter than the panther.)
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To: Redmen4ever

Would I support new York if they were invaded? That’s a silly question, of course I would, it’s part of the country, as for Ukraine, there not in NATO, they are a money laundering machine, Britain is in NATO.


74 posted on 02/26/2024 2:59:12 PM PST by saturn
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To: alexander_busek

I’m talking about the COLD WAR. During that time, we knew our limits and the Soviets responded in kind. It would have been VERY EASY to do the kind of crap we are doing in Ukraine, but we DID NOT.

Now all bets are off, and if we’re lucky, very lucky, only Ukraine will be destroyed by the IDIOTS running the West.


75 posted on 02/26/2024 3:15:50 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL
NEOCONS/CIA/NED/USAID/MIC/StateDept Inc - making and/or taking advantage of corrupt countries since the 50s.

And Now, you too can join the fight.


Paid for by the uniparty (Disclaimer: don't expect them to join you in the fight)

76 posted on 02/26/2024 3:50:14 PM PST by Pollard (#BoycottBlue)
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To: Pollard

I’ve been hearing about HIGHLY SKILLED Americans (or at least Westerners) who signed up to serve under Ukrainian command and were promptly dispatched to trenches on the Front Line, most likely to get a taste of Russian FABs or 152’s. Not quite as much fun as their dream of ‘killing Commies’.


77 posted on 02/26/2024 4:27:19 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: saturn

This is a fine answer. We, in the U.S., defend each other. Job #1 of a country is to defend its people.

As for Great Britain, same answer. We’re in a mutual defense agreement, reinforced by decades of us standing soldier to soldier. Plus, the U.K. meets its NATO obligation of spending of 2 percent on GDP.

As for Ukraine, I agree with you. It’s not the same thing. They’re not in NATO. Our support for them is based on pragmatic considerations. We might do for them what we did for Hungary in 1956, or Czechoslovakia in 1968. Russia’s invasions of those countries and of Ukraine were or are wrong, but we’re under no moral obligation to support them.

Yes, we made some assurances to Ukraine to induce that country to give up nuclear weapons, but Russia hasn’t used nuclear weapons on them.


78 posted on 02/26/2024 5:18:43 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever
Yes, we made some assurances to Ukraine to induce that country to give up nuclear weapons, but Russia hasn’t used nuclear weapons on them.

The first part of your sentence is a valid statement: Not only is it in our own geopolitical interest to help Ukraine defend itself against the Russian invasion (Russia needs to be shown the folly of its ways and deterred from further aggression) - we are also under a moral imperative to make good on our assurances under the Budapest Memorandum.

The second part of your sentence is an unnecessary add-on which only clouds the issue / unnecessarily expands the topic at hand; Putin's use/non-use of nukes is not at all contingent upon the assurances we gave (or vice-versa).

Regards,

79 posted on 02/26/2024 10:41:28 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: bert
Your scare tactics are foolish.

Not my scare tactics... just the facts. The games that the Biden administration, and the motley crew of Eurotrash and Neocon idiots have been playing with the Russians is what is foolish to the umpteenth degree. Again, they have the most powerful nuclear arsenal in the world. There is no guarantee that Putin would be dead within minutes of a nuclear strike, and in fact they are far more prepared for this contingency than we are.

This botched foreign policy has cost hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides along with the waste of $Hundreds of Billions of taxpayer dollars, not to mention the rise of BRICS which has now surpassed G7 in total GDP. This is one of the primary reason "economic sanctions" imposed on Russia have been ineffective. And the US dollar is rapidly loosing its position as the reserve currency of the world. If you are too foolish to recognize how much this folly is really costing us then I pity you.


80 posted on 02/26/2024 11:33:51 PM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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