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To: canuck_conservative; UMCRevMom@aol.com

IMHO, Putin has already won, he has:

- Crimea
- the land bridge to Crimea
- the land bridge flanks
- control of the Sea of Azov

Ukraine - winning - is the ability to manage to hang on to what it has, now.

Ukraine’s notion that a loss of the country is worth throwing everything into “winning over Russia,” is not a worthwhile path.

Russia and Ukraine are going to have to learn to get along - probably a thing for a future generation.

Russia remains a state sponsor of communism, fascism, socialism, terrorism around the world. Because, supporting divisions among:

- other countries
- other cultures, and
- other peoples

. . . is a Russian thing, part of its coercive defense nature - kind of like an unhappy customer of McDonald’s, throwing cups and spoons and napkins all around, thrashing about, raising a ruckus in places, NOT Russia[n].

Russia *is* a bear.

Russia does not want NATO near Russia, but Russia must itself, stay away from NATO . . . yet marching toward NATO (Poland, etc.) is not going to be good for Russia.

Not helping - hot heads:

- Moscow
- Kiyv
- Victoria Nuland (plus Obama, H. Clinton . . .)
- muslim bro (speaking of proxy’s)
- Venezuela, Cuba (puppet states)
- drug cartels (speaking of proxy’s)


70 posted on 02/26/2024 10:22:46 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

IF Russia was really winning, they wouldn’t need this desperate gaslighting campaign full of lies and propaganda

so, the fact that we DO have this Russian gaslighting campaign happening, is confirmation that Russia is actually losing


71 posted on 02/26/2024 10:27:31 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative; UMCRevMom@aol.com
George F. Kennan's Long Telegam - February 26, 1946

EXCERPTS:

Soviet Policy:

(a) Everything must be done to advance relative strength of USSR as factor in international society. Conversely, no opportunity most be missed to reduce strength and influence, collectively as well as individually, of capitalist powers.

(b) Soviet efforts, and those of Russia's friends abroad, must be directed toward deepening and exploiting of differences and conflicts between capitalist powers. If these eventually deepen into an "imperialist" war, this war must be turned into revolutionary upheavals within the various capitalist countries.

(c) "Democratic-progressive" elements abroad are to be utilized to maximum to bring pressure to bear on capitalist governments along lines agreeable to Soviet interests.

(d) Relentless battle must be waged against socialist and social-democratic leaders abroad.

Soviet party line is not based on any objective analysis of situation beyond Russia's borders; that it has, indeed, little to do with conditions outside of Russia; that it arises mainly from basic inner-Russian necessities which existed before recent war and exist today.

At bottom of Kremlin's neurotic view of world affairs is traditional and instinctive Russian sense of insecurity. Originally, this was insecurity of a peaceful agricultural people trying to live on vast exposed plain in neighborhood of fierce nomadic peoples.

To this was added, as Russia came into contact with economically advanced West, fear of more competent, more powerful, more highly organized societies in that area. But this latter type of insecurity was one which afflicted rather Russian rulers than Russian people; for Russian rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political systems of Western countries.

For this reason they have always feared foreign penetration, feared direct contact between Western world and their own, feared what would happen if Russians learned truth about world without or if foreigners learned truth about world within. And they have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.

- From approx. pp. 3 - 4 of the telegram.

83 posted on 03/09/2024 1:39:49 AM PST by linMcHlp
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