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The idea of total Ukrainian victory is delusional
The Hill ^ | 02/15/24 | BY ANDREW LATHAM

Posted on 02/16/2024 5:30:03 PM PST by Kazan

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To: amnestynone; sinsofsolarempirefan

“allowing Russia to win is going to send a clear message to China and other adversary states that they can use military force to attack our allies and interests without the risk of any meaningful response?”

Utter nonsense.

Our adversaries would fear a smart nation that conserves resources for the defense of real, essential interests.

They laugh at us burning up resources in places where we have no interests whatsoever.


61 posted on 02/17/2024 7:46:51 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

” the moment countries around the world realise American security guarantees are worth fk all”

That’s a false premise.

The US has made no security guarantee to Ukraine at all.

Nothing.


62 posted on 02/17/2024 7:56:48 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: EEGator; sinsofsolarempirefan

“You’re not American. Piss off.”

He’s a dependent desperate at the thought daddy warbucks will cut him off and he’ll have to fend for himself.


63 posted on 02/17/2024 8:04:32 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Yep.....no ‘official’ (i.e., formal Senate-approved) agreements. Only Biden Regime promises (that are worth as much as the lies his BLS and Fed are told to spout).

UKR was never part of NATO, isn’t now. Never even a formally-accepted (by NATO) NATO aspirant.


64 posted on 02/17/2024 8:08:47 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MeganC
Really.

Yes.

Very clearly.

65 posted on 02/17/2024 9:09:20 AM PST by icclearly ( )
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To: icclearly

So not liking Red Square and your precious Kremlin is “racism”? Hahahahaha!!! ROTFLMAO!!!

Let me guess, next you’ll be telling me your preferred pronouns?

How’s it feel to be a loser who advances impotent woke narratives on Free Republic?


66 posted on 02/17/2024 9:12:55 AM PST by MeganC (“Ukrainians aren’t people, they’re cosmic trash” - Anton Krasovsky)
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To: Mariner

No, they are afraid of our military power and would do what they needed to do to achieve their ends if we let them. They need to remain afraid of us if they want to invade other places. What you are saying is utter and total nonsense, so stop smoking crack.


67 posted on 02/17/2024 10:35:07 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

You’re the type of person that would fight an existential war over Somalia to keep the Russians from getting it.


68 posted on 02/17/2024 11:49:32 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

What you don’t understand is that this is not Ukraine nor is it about Somalia. It is about Russia and their aggressive and predatory ways. That is why we help Ukraine so this crap can be stopped. And the sooner it can be stopped the better.


69 posted on 02/17/2024 12:28:30 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

I understand your thinking perfectly.

But myself and a large majority of Americans disagree with it


70 posted on 02/17/2024 12:54:04 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I think the majority agree with me.


71 posted on 02/17/2024 1:01:36 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Kazan

So is the idea of a total Russian victory.


72 posted on 02/17/2024 4:50:11 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GFLOBALISM ! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: cowboyusa

If Russia takes Odessa and controls the entire Black Sea coastline, that would be total victory.


73 posted on 02/17/2024 4:57:38 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Yes, but they won’t concor Ukraine.Putin could have just taken them and saved everybody trouble.


74 posted on 02/17/2024 5:17:19 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GFLOBALISM ! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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