Posted on 02/06/2024 3:44:40 PM PST by CFW
SEATTLE — A new Seattle City ordinance designed to give food delivery app drivers a more livable wage is "backfiring," according to several drivers.
You may have noticed that new $5 fee on Doordash and Uber Eats orders, but it is not just causing frustrated customers to delete their apps, as we reported. We are now learning the people the ordinance was designed to help are hurting.
What used to be considered "hotspots" for workers on those apps, feel a little colder since Jan. 13, according to several drivers we heard from. That includes Gary Lardizabal, a longtime, app-based, food delivery driver in Seattle.
"Sundays before the ordinance," Lardizabal. "You know, we'd be thinking breakfast. Today, I didn't even touch it. They're not going to order. It is definitely backfiring.”
Since the ordinance went into effect last month, Mia Shagen said her delivery opportunities have been slashed.
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How stupid can these people get? Never mind. Don't try to answer that question.
No matter the legislation passed. The true minimum wage is still “zero”.
Unexpectedly…
It's going in a car regardless, might as well be with you instead of some fat-ass stranger who'll sneak bites out of it.
Once again progressives are shown that the true minimum wage is $0.00/hr
I suppose inflation is felt on a consumer by consumer basis.
Meaning: I often get my groceries delivered, b/c of foot problems that come and go, or just b/c I want them delivered.
If I had to pay an average of $5. more for home delivery this year, vs last year, I would very likely just go ahead and pay it. $5. more in expenses is not going to break the bank.
I may just shop less frequently.
But then, I have no wife or nearby family to explain the budget to and justify that slight increase.
“Why can’t people pick up their own food?”
Oh, I don’t know. Maybe they’re handicapped and can’t drive. Maybe they’re home bound taking care of a sick family member. Maybe they just don’t feel like it and are willing to pay a premium.
I spent my high school years delivering a hell of a lot of pizzas. I helped my mom make the mortgage payments and buy groceries after dad walked out on her and five kids. It also paid for my first car, insurance, and gas money.
I never once “snuck a bite”.
And what the hell business is it of yours why people do it? It’s a way to make an honest living and once again the government is screwing people at the lower end of the economic scale over and claiming to “help”.
You really are an incredible jerk. D-bags like you are why Republicans lose elections. This issue is tailor made for a pro-freedom pro-business to hammer liberals with.
But you’d rather sneer at them and their customers.
L
I saw a woman interviewed after this law went in on Seattle TV news. She was complaining that a $12 sandwich cost $32 when delivered. Another interviewed said she placed an order for Chinese take out and when told the price with delivery was $132, she canceled her order
Poor snowflakes!
They are stupid people who do not understand economics. It doesn’t even make sense, $5 per order. How does that guarantee any kind of wage? As the article basically points out if you get 1 order you only make $5. That’s not an hourly wage that’s a commission. And the customer who paid for the order sees they are paying $5 for a $20 meal and likely will tip less. So even that one order may result in less income - especially if 100% of tips go straight to the driver but the $5 goes to the company to pay for benefits (or to offset other workers minimum wage). In that scenario thr driver doesn’t even make a wage, just benefits? Meanwhile the app company chooses who gets the orders, so if they have to pay $26 an hour they’ll aggregate the orders to the fewest number of people and leave other workers with no pickups, no tips and no hours so those left in the cold get the true minimum wage, which is zero.
The whole thing is nonsensical. And I do sympathize with the drivers but this is a free market and labor is a commodity. Guaranteeing a minimum wage just means higher costs and less opportunity to make sales. It may even hurt restaurants as much as the drivers.
“help ape delivery drivers”??
How do you train an ape to deliver stuff?
Liberals can’t solve any problems, liberals only make all the problems.
Lol. Actually most of the restaurants I see around my place seal the bags and boxes with paper tape to prevent tampering. Or at least wil make it obvious if someone tampered with it. It may even be a health regulation, but I’m not sure.
But yeah, aside from the laziness aspect the cost to the consumer is a very high percentage of the meal’s cost to have it delivered. I do subscribe to grubhub for $9.99 a month but we rarely use it and even less often for delivery. It is convenient to submit an order since the one big value it offers is that every restaurant has their menu on the app so you can browse and choose and order from anywhere all on the app. But if I want a $16.99 meal from the local middle eastern grill, it costs me $16.99 plus tax and I drive down and pick it up. If I have it delivered, it usually ends up costing close to double with tip and fees.
I know these apps also charge the restaurant- they pay a listing fee, and based on their subscription level also pay some percent of the price of the meal. So it is better to just call in the order by phone. The local restaurant keeps all the money, and the tip goes to the counter staff.
I’m a DoorDash driver (now in my 4th year) and I’m not a fat ass driver. I’m dedicated, responsible, respectful and a very hard worker, and I have to say that goes for all of the Dashers in my own area that I know of — I can’t speak for zones outside of mine. My clients are often mothers with young kids who can’t get out, elderly or sick people who can’t get out to shop for themselves, and more often than not people who just want to feel a bit privileged and treat themselves to a delivery “Jeeves.” I get so tired of people denigrating drivers (good drivers...the bad ones deserve the criticism). If not for DoorDash, I’d have a hard time making ends meet in my own old age. And I love doing it. That having been said, we’re independent contractors. DoorDash pays us a base of $2.50 and we are grateful for the tips from our clients. Speaking just for myself, I wouldn’t want to be regulated or given a minimum wage. DoorDash is my own business and I enjoy the independence. Wish Doordash would up their game, though!!!
And this is why I love FR. Many different views. (sometimes why I hate it, too, LOL!!!)
Well I for one had a severe injury that required major surgery to fix. Basically took two years to recover. I could barely walk up and down my stairs for about half of that. Lived off of Door Dash, Instacart, Uber Eats, etc. for a while (family lived far away -- they did what they could). So yeah, not all of us can even go shopping sometimes.
Mine is not an isolated case. Personally know people in a similar situation right now.
Does that answer your question?
Greatly respect your posts and comments here, EEE. But think you just might have made a miss on this one.
The rationale is that the drivers get several deliveries per hour.
RATS aren’t smart enough to understand the business model of a lemonade strand...
I'm not criticizing Door Dash or food delivery apps per se. But in my opinion it's convenientizing everything. When was the last time young people stayed in and actually cooked? It's so much better than spending up to a $100 on a take-out meal in which a third of it goes to taxes and a tip.
D-bags like you are why Republicans lose elections
I'm not a Republican, I couldn't care less if the Rats controlled all of D.C., they basically do anyway.
Seattle: “Let’s pass a 50 cent fee on soda to limit sugar consumption.”
Seattle: “Let’s pass a $5 delivery fee so the drivers make more money.”
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