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After Several Days of Freedom, Ninth Circuit Resurrects California Ammo Law
Bearing Arms ^ | 2/6/24 | Cam Edwards

Posted on 02/06/2024 2:29:51 PM PST by CFW

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To: CFW

This is all very interesting. The American revolution went from incipient to hot when the British marched on Lexington and Concord to confiscate.. ammunition.

Or what passed for ammunition in those days. Black powder and any lead shot they could get their hands on.

C.W.


21 posted on 02/06/2024 4:18:14 PM PST by colderwater
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Thank you for referencing that article CFW.

"After Several Days of Freedom, Ninth Circuit [??? emphasis added] Resurrects California Ammo Law"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Anti-2nd Amendment (2A) activist judges aside, the bigger problem with 2A protections is that we're currently stuck with a worthless, corrupt Congress that scandalously refuses to do its constitutionally enumerated duty to strengthen constitutionally enumerated protections from abridgment by renegade states, evidenced by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A).

Excerpted from 14A:

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1, had included 2A when he read the Bill of Rights as main examples of constitutionally enumerated rights that 14A applies to the states.

“See 2nd Amendment (Article II) about middle of 2nd column.” — John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe

Misguided (imo) judges also seem to be ignoring that, in this troubling time of failed Democratic and RINO border policy, state abridgment of 2A protections also unthinkingly weakens the constitutionally enumerated right of a state to protect itself from invasion.

"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion [emphasis added]; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

The most immediate action that Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots can take to protect themselves from state and judicial abridgment of 2A protections is this. Hopeful Trump 47 supporters need to primary ALL incumbent lawmakers, except for MTG, Gaetz & Company (and others?), and elect a new Constitution-respecting Congress that will support Trump to finish draining the swamp, including cleaning up the anti-2A courts.

In fact, many patriots now have the right idea about corrupt, Biden-protecting Congress in this early part of a presidential election year. ("YOU'RE FIRED!")


22 posted on 02/06/2024 4:21:29 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ETCM

Pay with cash, no paper trail.


23 posted on 02/06/2024 4:28:29 PM PST by Reno89519 (Biden, Democrats, and Some Republicans may have surrendered, but I have not. Defend America!)
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To: Amendment10

Yes, congress should claw back the overreach by voiding all state or local laws regarding the 2nd amendment. I won’t hold my breadth on that one.


24 posted on 02/06/2024 4:30:33 PM PST by Reno89519 (Biden, Democrats, and Some Republicans may have surrendered, but I have not. Defend America!)
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To: Don W

Algodones New Mexico?


25 posted on 02/06/2024 4:36:45 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Reno89519
Pay with cash, no paper trail.

Tracking payment is too complex, and might require a warrant. License plate reading cameras are absolutely everywhere now. Even in our neighborhoods. If I were a jack boot, I'd just use these cameras to watch the parking lots of gun stores near the border for CA plates, and flag these plates if they cross back into CA on the same day. Let AI do the job. I wouldn't be surprised if this is already done, though there might be some legal reasons it isn't, like the interstate surveillance by state/local agencies.

26 posted on 02/06/2024 4:50:37 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Disambiguator

No, Los Algodones just south and west of Yuma. Tiny little bordertown of about 500 folks, but a bustling tourist destination for cheap eye exams and dental work. You literally park just inside the USA in California and walk across to go wherever. The best shrimp tacos I’ve ever had, BTW, were at a little stand about 4 blocks in.


27 posted on 02/06/2024 4:58:20 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: Reno89519
Pay with cash, no paper trail.

I wonder if you could use a flying drone to deliver the package across the border. Drones could be set to follow pre-selected routes and landing areas. If your car gets searched, you're cleared to go. Pick up the package on the other side well away from inspection sites.

28 posted on 02/06/2024 5:51:05 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Don W

I used to live near the NM version.


29 posted on 02/06/2024 5:57:39 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: ETCM

Work in 2 man teams. Switch cars offsite.


30 posted on 02/06/2024 5:59:15 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

They stopped the vegetables but let all the Fruits in.


31 posted on 02/06/2024 6:50:33 PM PST by nanook (Thomas Jefferson was right.)
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To: CFW

Tyranny sweet tyranny...
What as wonderful time to live in this country...


32 posted on 02/06/2024 9:14:01 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: CFW

All these idiotic liberal fascists have done is establish a black market for ammo.

YOu can hear the brass tinkle all the wat from Las Vegas to Los Angeles. Illegal aliens are buying guns and ammo from the cartel gangs ......wow......these liberal fascists are just so smart....like post turtles.


33 posted on 02/07/2024 3:23:13 AM PST by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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Thank you for replying Reno89519.

"Yes, congress should claw back the overreach by voiding all state or local laws regarding the 2nd amendment."


Not only does 2A show that the states have the power to train their own militias, but the Constitution's 4.4 from previous post also shows that its drafters had ordered the untrusted federal government to STAND DOWN to domestic violence unless a state formally requests federal assistance in helping to stop such violence.

"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence [emphasis added]."

So there's no way that Congress can legislatively void constitutionally protected state laws dealing with state militia and state violence imo.

And speaking of 4.4's domestic violence clause, note that the congressional record also shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A mentioned in previous post, had also noted that, until 14A was ratified, the states had never expressly constitutionally given the distrusted peacetime federal government the specific power to make penal code, not even for murder!

"Our Constitution never conferred upon the Congress of the United States the power - sacred as life is, first as it is before all other rights which pertain to man on this side of the grave - to protect it in time of peace by the terrors of the penal code within organized states; and Congress has never attempted to do it. There never was a law upon the United States statute-book to punish the murderer for taking away in time of peace the life of the noblest, and the most unoffending, as well, of your citizens, within the limits of any State of the Union [emphases added]. The protection of the citizen in that respect was left to the respective States, and there the power is to-day.” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column.)

The above excerpt about Bingham gets us back to Sections 1 and 5 of 14A, which indicate that Congress now has the 14A power to make peacetime gun laws. (Oh-noes!)

H O W E V E R ...

The irony of Congress's power to make gun laws is that such laws are limited by 14A to STRENGTHENING constitutionally enumerated rights from abridgment by states like renegade California is now doing imo.

In fact, the Supreme Court had acknowledged Congress's 14A duty to strengthen constitutionally enumerated protections in Minor v. Happersett, Congress now wrongly ignoring its duty to strengthen 2A protections from abridgment by California and other states.

Excerpted from Minor v. Happersett:

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

So why do we now have unconstitutional (imo), peacetime restrictive federal gun laws?

Consider that federal restrictive gun laws started appearing in the books during the administration of infamously Constitution-ignoring FDR.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

In fact, note that major peacetime restrictive federal gun laws got started in the 1900s under FDR, not in the 17 or 1800s.

Major federal gun laws (Non-FR)

34 posted on 02/07/2024 10:51:56 AM PST by Amendment10
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