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Florida advances law banning children under 16 from using social mediaBill would prohibit teenagers from creating an account, and is now headed to the state’s Republican-controlled senate
theguardian.com ^ | Thu 25 Jan 2024 | Sam Levine

Posted on 01/26/2024 5:31:12 AM PST by V_TWIN

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To: pas

Explain why? Both are communicated a message, while all pron is a bad message much ( I would argue most) social media promotes a very bad message for minors.

I challenge you to show how I made a false equivalence. Don’t just argue through assertion, defend your assertion.


21 posted on 01/26/2024 5:55:50 AM PST by Skwor
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To: V_TWIN

That’s the parents job...............


22 posted on 01/26/2024 5:58:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Augie

“Legislation is no substitute for parenting.”

So, we can sell your 10 year old cigarettes, pot, guns, a car, etc.

You are claiming children are no different than adults because “good parenting” will protect them.


23 posted on 01/26/2024 5:58:52 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: JayGalt

I agree laws against an unenforceable action are foolish. This can be enforced, like require age limits from the platform owner, not perfect but there are ways to limit such access.

We do it with pron, or do you think pron laws are equally silly since a child can always end up looking at his friend’s father’s personal playboy collection?


24 posted on 01/26/2024 5:58:56 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

“I 100% support this but somehow I think the courts will twist and turn and decide children have more rights than voting adult citizens.”

So you think EVERY person who wants to register with any and all platforms must show certified identification of their real selves? Are you kidding? This is not at all about children, this is all about positively identifying every user on the internet by real name and attaching content to them.

And if you actually think they are going to destroy the data after they verify it then I have a bridge to sell you. They will SELL this information without your permission just like they already secretly do now. And to them “social media” means EVERY WEBSITE on the internet.

And their first customer will be to a government database. They will be data mining on EVERYONE while hiding behind children. Supporting this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. This is Nikki Haley caliber stupidity here... It will DESTROY the internet all together.


25 posted on 01/26/2024 5:59:16 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: BBQToadRibs2

Their loophole should be to get a non smart flip phone.


26 posted on 01/26/2024 6:00:19 AM PST by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to South)
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To: Red Badger

Absolutely it is the parents job.

There is no reason though to not help parents by giving them more power to hold social media providers accountable and tools to prevent access to such things.


27 posted on 01/26/2024 6:02:03 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Openurmind

I use no social media unless you count FR or other such BBs as such. This issue is powerfully hard to manage as you demonstrate din your post. That does not mean we ignore it and do nothing.

Children need to not be on social media, my actual preference would to be banning apps like toctok and others, they are poison imo.


28 posted on 01/26/2024 6:05:13 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

Kids are very clever and smart with computers. They can do things we are as a whole clueless about.


29 posted on 01/26/2024 6:05:53 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: V_TWIN

Impossible to enforce.


30 posted on 01/26/2024 6:07:06 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: Skwor

All your well meaning, and emotional, ideas do is strengthen data gathered on everyone including children.
The idea you can stop children from seeing porn with laws is comical.
Same for social media. How would they validate?
Your children are your responsibility, not the state’s.
How can you still have any trust or faith in government?
Same applies for big tech.


31 posted on 01/26/2024 6:09:42 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Openurmind

Look at that person’s homepage.


32 posted on 01/26/2024 6:11:16 AM PST by EEGator
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To: V_TWIN

Unfortuanely, this bill would stop me from using ANY social media. I live in Florida.

I want my anonymity. If f/b requires me to ID myself, I AM GONE.


33 posted on 01/26/2024 6:11:39 AM PST by George from New England
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To: napscoordinator

They are not smart, kids just learn fast specifically because of their age. I am 60 and assure you no child expect some rare prodigy savant knows more about computers than me.

Regardless I prefer overall good parenting over and legislature activities but do see social media as it is available now very similar to pron and it needs more than just “good parents” to keep the children safe.

Access is to easy and hard to control, the right legislation can encourage a better management of social media and hold bad companies accountable.

Now I do not know if the Fl bill is good legislation, all I am saying is I think there is the potential for effective legislation and unless someone has a better idea than expect parents to do it all alone, what would you do?


34 posted on 01/26/2024 6:11:43 AM PST by Skwor
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To: George from New England

I rent an apartment. I do not want drive-by’s so I don’t post an address and f/b doesn’t know where I am ‘xcept for an IP address. Florida will make this end for me.


35 posted on 01/26/2024 6:13:33 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Skwor
We don’t let minors consume pron,

With the exception of the school library.

36 posted on 01/26/2024 6:16:06 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: EEGator

I have little faith in any government but also try to live in the real world. We all have to make due with the society we live in.

You seem to support anarchy, seems you believe there should be no laws or government?

We all are imperfect, all government is a horrible imperfect solution for imperfect people.

Some governments are less horrible and some laws are less egregious, this is realty, we have to try and live in it.


37 posted on 01/26/2024 6:16:47 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

“I use no social media unless you count FR or other such BBs as such.”

Don’t you understand that EVERYTHING but internet market places is now defined as “social media”???

This includes all sites like the FR and any other forum, blog, and all interactive websites. And because of the Florida rule the websites will just apply it across the board as “one size fits all” requirement even if you are NOT in Florida. Then it will spread across the whole internet and destroy it.

And... It will not stop there, this concept will spread to EVERY website on the internet just like Nikki Haley wanted. It is dumber than dumb to trust this scam. May as well just go hand unknown criminals your real identification so they can steal your identity.


38 posted on 01/26/2024 6:19:47 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

I stated a few posts ago I did not know if the Fl law was the right way of doing it, just that I do support legislation (similar to banning minors from pron) for social media.


39 posted on 01/26/2024 6:21:58 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

I think you’re a government troll pushing duplicitous propaganda.


40 posted on 01/26/2024 6:23:29 AM PST by EEGator
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