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Russian Troops 'Bled Dry' by ATACMS Cluster Bombs: Storm-Z Instructor
Newsweek ^ | Nov. 14, 2023 | Isabel van Brugen

Posted on 11/14/2023 6:19:33 PM PST by canuck_conservative

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To: Berlin_Freeper

“1 year, 8 months, 2 weeks and 2 days Of Putin’s glorious victory march.”

exactly. pooty is a loser.

and now there’s a serious effort to get Ukraine all of russia’s frozen assets (almost $400 billion)


41 posted on 11/14/2023 8:26:42 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: canuck_conservative; All

ATACM total production is 500 per year.

Even if they give them all to Ukraine it isn’t enough to make a difference.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a45114295/us-likely-to-send-atacms-missiles-to-ukraine/

That is like five hundred times 500lb bombs. They can hit some symbolic targets, but it is just not militarily significant.


42 posted on 11/14/2023 8:32:28 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Do you hear the MSM crowing about Russia losing as the lead story every night on the news?

Or has the MSM swept it under the rug?

There’s your answer.


43 posted on 11/14/2023 8:40:57 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: canuck_conservative

nice, keep making the soviet wanna be’s pay until they leave.


44 posted on 11/14/2023 9:13:43 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: kiryandil

I did a search for her, but I could find nothing. So, hwho is she, and what is her relevance?


45 posted on 11/14/2023 10:14:34 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: canuck_conservative

Der Führer Zelenskyy won’t allow that, so say his military leaders. Because like you he is no sanity at all.


46 posted on 11/14/2023 10:20:46 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Isabel van Brugen, the authoress of this propaganda piece.


47 posted on 11/14/2023 10:28:36 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: canuck_conservative

It’s amazing how we went from leading the world in banning cluster bombs to dropping them with delight on Europe. It couldn’t have happened without the full throated support of the media, pentagon whitehouse and congress.


48 posted on 11/14/2023 10:53:49 PM PST by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain…)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Russian troops are less motivated than Ukrainian troops.


49 posted on 11/15/2023 12:00:38 AM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦....................I miss civilization....)
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Russian troops are less motivated than Ukrainian troops.

That must be why all the military age Ukrainians are trying to escape.

https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-08-14/young-ukrainians-leave-the-country-to-avoid-going-to-war.html

https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/08/31/thousands-of-ukrainian-men-are-avoiding-military-service

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/09/ukraine-men-leave/

https://www.euronews.com/2023/09/01/i-was-afraid-of-it-the-ukrainians-dodging-conscription-and-fleeing-the-country

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-border-service-arrests/32201615.html

50 posted on 11/15/2023 4:43:20 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sure. Average age of Ukraine fighters is 43, passing the age of effective procreation. Younger potential recruits are being waved into the US. (113,000 since April this year).

NOT “all”...

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084409254/tens-of-thousands-of-ukrainians-can-stay-in-the-u-s-without-fear-of-deportation

How many has Biden actually FLOWN here?

Russians of military age had already left—or were quietly leaving—before being drafted.

“At least 300,000 military-age men left Russia, and Russia claimed to draft 300,000, They have taken 110,000 killed in action and another 300,000 wounded. They have lost most of their best army units and best tanks and armor.”

https://www.newsweek.com/russias-army-so-devastated-it-wont-recover-50-years-ukraine-adviser-dan-rice-says-1773134


51 posted on 11/15/2023 6:41:12 AM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦....................I miss civilization....)
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To: kiryandil
No wonder I couldn't find her. It wasn't even close to the author's name. 🤣

Thanks, I never even thought to look at the author's name, but I still wouldn't have made the connection, though I would have notice that they both had the same first name. 😋

52 posted on 11/15/2023 6:55:32 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

I think it is pretty clear that both are.


53 posted on 11/15/2023 12:12:04 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Antioch

It’s amazing how we went from leading the world in banning cluster bombs


Who is ‘we’? The U.S., at least for a long time, and perhaps even still, resisted signing onto those bans.


54 posted on 11/15/2023 12:17:40 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

TuckerCarlson@TuckerCarlson

Ep. 37 The two defining tragedies of our time — the war in Ukraine and the presidency of Joe Biden — are both finally coming to an end.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1722034150595522695


55 posted on 11/15/2023 4:46:02 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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IT’S OVER! NATO Calls on Ukraine to SURRENDER!!!
YouTube.com ^ | 11/07/2023 | Dr. Steve Turley
Posted on 11/8/2023, 3:12:31 AM by E. Pluribus Unum
Fanatical Putin Stooge
56 posted on 11/15/2023 6:50:46 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Tucker Carlson finds unlikely ally in Gen Z after rant on today’s work culture that ‘treats people like they’re not people’

Even the MSM are laughing in the face of your Hunter Biden friend.
57 posted on 11/15/2023 6:56:45 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JustaTech

“ Russia won as soon as they captured the Russian-speaking districts in east Ukraine and installed layers of defense around them. Russia never staged an invasion of the magnitude required to conquer all of Ukraine, their objective was limited to east Ukraine.”

Then why did that column of tanks and infantry head straight for Kiev?

L


58 posted on 11/15/2023 7:01:57 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Lurker
Then why did that column of tanks and infantry head straight for Kiev?

To force Zelensky to the negotiating table. And it worked, even though NATO intervened to force Zelensky to back out of the armistice.

59 posted on 11/17/2023 10:28:52 AM PST by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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To: JustaTech

“To force Zelensky to the negotiating table.”

But you said the Russians had already won. So why negotiate at all?

Personally I hope at least half the Russian army gets chewed to pieces in that meat grinder. Not that I like the Ukrainians much more. They’re both hyper corrupt oligarchies run by thugs. They only differ in scale.

L


60 posted on 11/17/2023 10:34:00 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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