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I wonder how 'picky' they'll try to get away with.


1 posted on 11/05/2023 7:51:18 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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Oneida, Amana, Shekina.......... All communist utopias. All gone.


114 posted on 11/06/2023 4:47:48 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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And it’ll have to be one giant gated community. It will be a utopia, for the rich. All while the rest of the State gets poorer and more and more end up homeless.

Reminds me of the movie “Freejack”, where the only difference, for now, is the inability to steal somebody else’s body to live forever...but you know they’d justify it if they could.


121 posted on 11/06/2023 5:03:11 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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Water may not be an issue. It’s productive ag land now and all but the most dense residential development uses less water per acre - this project likely reduces overall water demand.

The biggest challenge is to manage affordable housing mandates. Politicians will demand at least 30% of the housing units be affordable. This will work fine if they can satisfy that requirement with “workforce” housing and housing for teachers, cops and firefighters. If anything more than a very small fraction needs to be importing of the welfare underclass, a disaster, particularly for the schools.

Second largest challenge will be to manage air pollution mandates. Given both California political predilections, and the real tendency of the valley to smog up, the project will need to be very close to zero emissions. No natural gas, nearly all ZEV vehicles (i.e., prohibition on parking gas or diesel cars), and likely most or all of the grid needing to be solar or wind-powered.

Third is figuring out how to gate the community. Pretty straightforward to have gated HOAs. Less straightforward to make gated private retail villages that can admit those you want to admit while keeping out the rif-raff.


123 posted on 11/06/2023 5:08:07 AM PST by only1percent
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"A utopian society, as defined by Robert V. Hine in California's Utopian Colonies, includes “a group of people who are attempting to establish a new social pattern based upon a vision of the ideal society and who have withdrawn themselves from the community at large to embody that vision in experimental form." They are composed of either religious or secular members. The former stressed (in the western tradition) a community life inspired by religion, while the latter expressed the idealism of utilitarianism as a means to create happiness, with a belief in the cooperative way of life. Explored within this essay is the origin and development of the Utopian idea within in the United States. It includes examples of nineteenth century utopian societies and, occasionally, what led to their demise."

In Utopias in America

" 'This is not a plan!' I declared with a laugh. 'It's just a bunch of buttons with labels on them.' 'But it's all here,' Angus insisted. 'I've thought of everything—Start, Stop, Land, Take-off, Dodge Asteroids, you name it, everything you need to know.” He even had an all-purpose button to take care of anything unexpected, which he thought was a genius innovation'."

In The Dark Side of Paradise: A Brief History of America's Utopian Experiments in Communal Living

"...utopian seekers hoped to create their perfect society by building experimental communities. Most of the communes had short lifespans, and the utopians performed their experiments in isolation from the rest of society, yet they all expressed the deep desire of perfectionism."

In Utopian Movement

Led by "moguls," as the Daily Mail article says, means this is another real estate, developer "green" scam, aimed not at utopia but at profit. The "rube" will be expected to inhabit it, and obey HOA-like restrictions. Think those "moguls" will live in the little homes and walk to fetch their groceries? B-wa-ha-ha!

125 posted on 11/06/2023 5:21:23 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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OK, so can expect no steel will be used, no aluminum, nothing needing mined. No petro fuel is used in the making, etc??

Of course, not. “Green” is a childish fantasy by little kids who know nothing and think food comes from grocery stores and not farms and ranches.


126 posted on 11/06/2023 5:24:23 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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They need to make sure they are “diverse”—no Whitopia allowed!


127 posted on 11/06/2023 5:24:40 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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Wonder how this compares to The Woodlands outside of Houston TX.

https://www.visitthewoodlands.com


129 posted on 11/06/2023 5:32:38 AM PST by Yardstick
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I wouldn’t want to live in a planned community especially one built by elite billionaires. Just imagine all the restrictive rules.

Where I live if I want to stick a rifle out the window to shoot a coyote I can do it. I betcha guns of any sort will not be allowed in this place.


131 posted on 11/06/2023 5:35:06 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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Didn’t the hippies try this several times?


133 posted on 11/06/2023 6:33:43 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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The picture shows all elites, no workers.


134 posted on 11/06/2023 6:34:55 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Another San Francisco six months after it opens it’s California things don’t change for the better there.


136 posted on 11/06/2023 7:13:01 AM PST by Vaduz (....)
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So is this a gated private city?


139 posted on 11/06/2023 8:04:32 AM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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No surprise splinter Religious groups have been trying this in the USA since before there was a USA. The Climate Cult is just the latest religious group to try it

Utopias in America

https://www.nps.gov/articles/utopias-in-america.htm#:~:text=The%20First%20Amendment‘s%20guarantee%20of,agrarian%2C%20and%20communal%20in%20nature.


140 posted on 11/06/2023 8:14:29 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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Will it be a sanctuary city, and how are they going to deal with the sewage treatment facilities?


157 posted on 11/06/2023 3:19:58 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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I don’t see much diversity.


160 posted on 11/08/2023 1:52:12 PM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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