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Billionaire Flannery group says it has now bought all the land it needs for utopian new 53,000 acre city in Northern California that will be 'walkable and green'
Daily Mail ^ | 11 05 2023 | Laura Parnaby

Posted on 11/05/2023 7:51:18 PM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: yesthatjallen

53,000 acres is a bit bigger than a 9-mile-sided square.


81 posted on 11/05/2023 11:32:58 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: BitWielder1
Will there be a fence around it?

Of course not!

"Fences are ray-cist!"

"Walls don't work!"

"Refugees are welcome!"

I'm sure that they'll be tickled pink to accept their allotment of Third-World trash, native low-lifes, and home-grown thugs, just like everyone else.

Then watch their little utopia crash!

Regards,

82 posted on 11/05/2023 11:35:16 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: whitney69

These planned cities don’t use the natural genius that presides within the human race. One contractor, I read about, built a city park but he didn’t lay any sidewalks. The city asked him why he didn’t lay the sidewalks and his response was that he was waiting to see how people went about walking and he would be back in a couple weeks to lay the sidewalks.

A couple of weeks later, it was obvious how people used the park to walk around by the paths that were being worn. The contractor than used the pathways as guidelines to laydown the cement for the sidewalks.


83 posted on 11/05/2023 11:35:21 PM PST by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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To: montag813
Those paintings aren’t very diverse.

You noticed that, too, did you?

Regards,

84 posted on 11/05/2023 11:36:11 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: yesthatjallen

I can see it now, Bigfoot will be declared a protected species and building will be illegal.


85 posted on 11/05/2023 11:39:13 PM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: yesthatjallen

I can see it now, Bigfoot will be declared a protected species and building will be illegal.


86 posted on 11/05/2023 11:39:25 PM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Jonty30

It will cost these billionaires a major part of their fortunes to bribe all the corrupt officials into getting permission to build this. Plus, calufornia land use law, public resources law, environmental law plus the state required the developer to produce a water source. Where and how they plan to get water out there for a quarter million people is anyone’s guess.


87 posted on 11/05/2023 11:43:29 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

You’re not suggesting that they are just scamming people to collect money and walk away.

Are you? 😒


88 posted on 11/05/2023 11:54:11 PM PST by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Those pictures of this udopian “walkable city” are disturbing. First, they look like unreal “paint by numbers” images, second there are few, if any, actual minorities depicted. And in the first picture, notice that almost every person is shown walking in the same direction, like sheep in a flock.


89 posted on 11/06/2023 12:15:53 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: Wayne07

Kumbya


90 posted on 11/06/2023 12:49:51 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it.........)
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To: yesthatjallen

Does each house have enough space to grow their own food and make their own clothes?


91 posted on 11/06/2023 1:21:53 AM PST by fruser1
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To: yesthatjallen

Then on day 24 of the perfect 15 minute town, a pack of wolves ate half the human population.

On day 33 a pack of some other kind of animals ate the other half.

The End.

Epilogue: On day 34 the town truly was green (and red).


92 posted on 11/06/2023 1:48:43 AM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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To: catnipman

From Google Maps, it looks like this is a potentially massive extension of suburban sprawl into the open space between the San Francisco Bay urban jumble, Sacramento, and Stockton. From the map in the story, it looks like the planned development will cover most of the area between Travis AFB and the Sacramento River.

Looking 50 years ahead — maybe 25 — SF, Sacramento and Stockton are likely to be one huge urban blob. And maybe a lot farther than that, given the rate at which democrats are flooding the country with illegals.

So: the question here is how this new development will balance residential, commercial and industrial development vs. agricultural preserves, parks and recreation. It could be a bulwark against unchecked sprawl. Or it could accelerate the sprawl. The devil is in the details. I would imagine that the project’s backers are fully aware of the choice and are probably hoping that it will be the former. If that’s the plan, I wish them success.

It’s private money. They have an opportunity to do long term planning better than the State of California. With a greenfields start, they also have an opportunity to simply step out of the SF mess, avoid the many mistakes U.S. cities have made since — well, pick your date. But if they want this to have staying power, they need to be planning with a hundred year timeframe in mind. That begins, above all, with a sustainable economy. People have to make a living. They will eventually lose the first generation of companies that invest in this new project. It is at that point that the successor generations will be tempted to abandon the disciplined perspective of the founders and sell out to rubbish development because they’ll be desperate for tax base and jobs.

I don’t know the area well enough to comment with any conviction. But my outlander’s perspective is that it’s a dubious gamble to bet on California — anywhere in California — in the long run. I can understand wanting to build an Escape from San Francisco refuge community. But can they hold the line in the long term?

I live in Washington DC. Our CMSA — the appropriate planning framework for transportation and economic development — is now the fourth largest in the country, with nearly ten million people. (Of this ten million, only about 700,000 live in DC proper. DC has gentrification on steroids, driven largely by intolerable commutes, so the era of all the suburban jurisdictions using DC as the dumping ground for the poverty population is ending. That means the era of exclusionary zoning in the suburbs must also end. But that’s another story.) The development pressure is relentless. Time and again, suburban counties have set limits to sprawl. And time and again, the limits are shattered a couple of elections later. We are building gridlock from Chesapeake Bay to the Blue Ridge. Montgomery County is a deep blue land of fruits and nuts, but I have to give MoCo credit for holding the line on its agricultural preserve in the western part of the county. They’ve done better than any other suburban jurisdiction. So far. But the pressure mounts continuously. I’m sure it’s the same in coastal California.

Of course, we could control the borders, and a lot of these problems would resolve themselves over time.


93 posted on 11/06/2023 1:50:08 AM PST by sphinx
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To: sphinx

Informative post, thanks.


94 posted on 11/06/2023 1:53:14 AM PST by Fury
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To: yesthatjallen

I don’t believe this for a minute. Travis AFB eventually will be BRAC’d and I think these do-gooders are really prepping the field for another Denver Airport like build. A massive new airport/mini-travel city specifically aimed to replace SFs current airport. They (green city investors) are set to make a significant profit, IMO.


95 posted on 11/06/2023 1:54:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: yesthatjallen

This is white honky billionaires wet dream. They can buy homes there for their non-productive offspring. Will marijuana stores be banned? The upside is that building it will provide thousands of jobs for non-elite Californians.


96 posted on 11/06/2023 1:55:54 AM PST by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence-stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: yesthatjallen

If I live on the east side of a 50,000 acre plot and have to walk to the west side of that 50,000 acres to get a loaf of bread, how many hours would that take?


97 posted on 11/06/2023 1:57:03 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: yesthatjallen

How many tax breaks and government green subsidies will the bilious billionaires demand? My translation is that California taxpayers will be ripped off to pay for this billionaire eco-playground.

Look for Federal subsides too. They need to hire Elon Musk, who is the undisputed master at mooching from all levels of government.


98 posted on 11/06/2023 2:01:24 AM PST by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence-stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Probably will end up filled only with millionaires - it'll cost too much for anyone else.

Walled off, guard gates and patrols. What's not to love in a city filled with only the wealthiest of your Lefty neighbors?

99 posted on 11/06/2023 2:24:49 AM PST by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Jonty30

In our nations history, how many of these experiments have been tried and ultimately failed. These people may as well be Shakers.


100 posted on 11/06/2023 2:27:41 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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