Posted on 10/17/2023 6:20:04 AM PDT by cba123
Less than six months after filing with the Chinese government to add solid-state batteries to three of its EV models, NIO has just filed to include the potentially game-changing technology to 11 more. With dozens of EVs powered by the lighter, safer, and more energy-dense cells, the automotive landscape overseas could soon look very different in that drivers can go further and charge faster.
As one of the leading EV automakers in China, NIO ($NIO) is continuing to push innovation to its current limit, at least in terms of range and charge speeds. The company has been leveraging its relationship with solid-state battery developer WeLion for years, and the public is now starting to see the fruits of that relationship begin to blossom into bonafide EV models.
When NIO first unveiled its ET7 sedan back in January of 2021, it also showcased a new 150 kWh solid-state pack developed with WeLion, vowing to eventually implement the technology in its vehicles.
Nearly a year ago, WeLion was touting its first solid-state cells rolling off its assembly lines in China, bringing the prospect of longer-range NIO EVs (or any EVs for that matter) one step closer to reality. This past May, a filing by NIO with China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology revealed the automaker was finally putting the regulations in place to sell EVs with the advanced batteries as early as the summer of 2023.
Well, that hasn’t happened just yet, but it appears closer than ever now that NIO has just submitted an additional filing to implement solid-state packs into nearly a dozen more of its EVs. Here’s the latest.
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Seems promising. We will see.
But wee STILL don’t have the infrastructure to deal with 50 million battery powered vehicles.
People who live in apartment complexes and condominiums won’t be able to install home chargers if they own an EV. They will be at the mercy of public charging stations, with their cars sitting idle for hours away from home................
Yes. Too many people advocating and pushing this are not even mentioning this major issue. They ignore it, and seem to think it is unicorn farts and fairy dust that will generate electricty issuing forth from those plastic plates with holes in them that are found on the walls in homes.
Yes and someone really must buy all the over-priced internal combustion engines all the American dealers, want us to keep buying at ever-increasing cost.
Because …
They don’t want to change.
Actually it’s the unions fighting the manufacturers who don’t want to change. Because they know it takes fewer people to build an EV. Which is why Ford and GM have attempted to embrace them as much as they have
The dealers don’t care. They will sell whatever the consumers will buy. It’s big oil that doesn’t want the change. Big oil runs the world.
Except if these solid-state batteries are real, this is the start of the big change-over.
There are still reasons some people still are not completely comfortable with EVs - their questionable safety.
If they actually can produce solid-state, safe batteries, the game will truly change.
For real.
There are “batteries” that are actually solid state DC generators, being developed that will solve that problem.
If we can keep the “math and science are racist” crowds at bay for a few more years.
If these things pan out, and they are ready for low voltage use now, you’ll buy the car, and basically never need to charge it.
New battery technology will be the result of the EV push.
Exzctly- not to mention that many parts of the US are prone to power outages that last for days, and folks living in such rural areas won’t be able to charge their cars likely, causing massive problems in the workforce.
“Sorry I was late for work boss- the electronics on y car worked out as I sat in line waiting to charge my car in sub zero weather, and it caused a fire which spread for 8 blocks” if you’ll just gimme one more chance, I’ll do better next time... maybe... depends on whether the batteries blows up or not”
Folks, I think you are all missing the major issue, and that is the generation of electricity and associated infrastructure to get the electricity to charging stations, either in homes or in charging stations.
The environmentalists (basically the entire Left/Democrat Party) do NOT want to increase energy production.
Period. End of sentence.
Can we all agree that the only thing acceptable to them is wind or solar power, and that NEITHER of those things is even remotely, on the same planet, capable of supplying what is needed?
Can we agree on that to start off? I am willing to debate anyone who thinks differently on that.
Next, can we agree they WILL NOT allow nuclear plants to be built, even with the EV wet dream driving them from behind? Can we agree on that?
Can we also agree that they are fully obstructing the construction of coal, oil, and gas powered power generation plants (fully to the point of demonization) and that nowhere NEAR the amount needed are being planned, much less approved? If someone wants to argue that, I am willing to engage on that.
Can we ALSO agree that the exploration for and exploitation of Oil, Gas, and Coal are being actively discouraged (also to the point of demonization) to the point of irrationality, to the point that even if we COULD get these generation plants approved and built, getting the oil, gas and coal to them is going to be problematic?
If anyone wants to take issue with these items above, please proceed. I am willing to engage and talk it out.
If not, there are only two choices: First, that there will be a shortcoming of energy to charge these EVs, and secondly, that people will be forced to drive less and use less power in general, and electricity in particular.
Going down this road at this time is insanity. And that insanity has nothing to do with “big oil” ruling things, or the auto industry refusing to go down that road to save jobs.
It is Leftist insanity, and going down that road is a road to ruin.
Aren’t there cars that already do something similar? My brother had a car that didn’t need charging I think?
But your brother had to buy gasoline. This would be a vehicle that NEVER needs charging, or refuelling.
The Nuclear diamond batteries are self charging units with a 1/2 life of hundreds of years. Kind of the Robert Heinlein “Flux Capacitor” from science fiction novels.
Will they get it to work at high enough voltages? I do not know. But they already work at low voltage.
Nope, can't agree with that. Small modular nuclear fission reactors are FINALLY breaking the various logjams that have limited nuclear, especially the molten-salt thorium reactor by Copenhagen Atomics. Dow Chemical is planning small modular gas-cooled reactors for one of their Texas production facilities to provide electricity and process heat.
Interesting and promising.
Ah, yep, didn’t realize the new tech needs no “fueling” of any kind- I didn’t read carefully enough.
This is “almost perpetual motion” territory it seems- (course the motion would break down eventually as the 1/2 life kicks in, so not true perpetual motion). Pretty exciting stuff if they can get it to work. I’d maybe go for that IF repairs and replacement parts are reasonable.
With evs now, apparently you can’t run air conditioner or heat without suffering a massive extra drain on the batteries and reduced milage per charge- this is a deal killer for most, especially those in really frigid or hot climates. With that new tech you linked, those problems will be a thing of the past depending i guess on how long one has to idle? (Like truckers who idle their trucks all night while catching zzz’s? I winder if the new tech might get too low on a charge at any pojnt under certain scenarios?
By the way, please do not take these points as any kind of attack on any of you or your beliefs/desires.
It is a statement of reality as I see it.
I cannot express how much I disagree with the sentiment that pushing down this road without developments in HAND rather than “prospective developments” is foolish and outright irrational.
The analogy people like to use is the development of cars and the development of aviation, but there is a key difference.
People who didn’t want to use cars or found them unsuitable could keep using horses, and nobody was forcing them to give them up, so car development could proceed at its own pace without a major disruption.
Same for aviation. The development of aviation was completely independent from the current modes of transportation. They didn’t demand that trains, cars, horses, or ships be banned, and activity could proceed.
But in this case, EVs are being forced on us without the development occuring, and the suppression of exploration, exploitation, and consuming of those fuels in powerplants to make electricity. They are not allowing development to occur in tandem without impeding the currrent modes of transportation, and are literally putting the cart before the horse.
The upshot for me is I don’t want an electric vehicle at this time. While ICE powered vehicles would still have value because the infrastructure is already there for them, current electric vehicles types would be worthless.
They are planning it. Planning. I did NOT say there was no development and test bed development.
And planning without implementation is, in the end, no implementation.
I am fully on board with nuclear power. I have training with isotopes and nuclear processes. I am not “an expert”, but I have enough knowledge to understand the technology, speak conversantly on it, and make appropriate risk anylyses. This is what we might call “rational discourse”.
But the people opposing these technologies are not interested in “rational discourse”. They are interested in Gaia and unicorn farts like solar and wind.
I think the building of prototypes is one thing, clearing the environmentalist hurdles (and new hurdles will be created apace to further block development, not only with plants, with mining permits, you name it.
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