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1 posted on 10/16/2023 7:47:06 AM PDT by SJackson
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Wait a min… I thought the wise and noble natives were a bunch of gentle monks living with total harmony with Gaia. The modern portrayal of American Indians is as ridiculous as how blacks are portrayed as stock brokers and doctors in modern TV commercials.


2 posted on 10/16/2023 7:53:42 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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ping for later


3 posted on 10/16/2023 7:54:12 AM PDT by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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Colonists were appalled at the way native Americans treated their captured enemies.

They were subjected to ghastly, prolonged and public torture. All tribe members (including women and children) were encouraged to mete out the torture, at will until the captive died. To the present, native American's are portrayed as the noble savages. What they did to one another was incredible

4 posted on 10/16/2023 7:54:46 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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I’ve had discussions with Wokesters about this. It doesn’t matter. They blame America for slavery in the first place, the Natives simply picked up the chattel practice from us.

The only thing I’ve seen that stops the Wokesters in their tracks is to remind them the fact that many of the Founding Fathers were abolitionist and that we tried to stop slavery against the slaving Empire who brought slavery here to these shores, ultimately, against our will too.

The facts prove this.

The wokesters mistakenly believe Britain invented abolitionism.

BZZT! Wrong answer. America invented transatlantic abolitionism.


5 posted on 10/16/2023 7:56:55 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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"Dey darker den us! Woof!"

7 posted on 10/16/2023 8:01:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Finally some truth about Native Americans and slavery peeks out from under the covers. The narrative about Abraham Lincoln and the South is still perverted.


8 posted on 10/16/2023 8:05:25 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: SJackson

THere were black plantation owners too. Some of the largest owners were black.

As well, there were white slaves (although the left deny this and claim they were nothing but “Indentured servants”, but everyone a.ive when it happened knew full well that they were slaves with nor rights, nor any way to work off their supposed debts). Infact white slaves were much cheaper than black slaves, and as a result many were brutally treated and simply replaced when they died from the abuse.


10 posted on 10/16/2023 8:19:20 AM PDT by Bob434
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Maybe instead of “Indigenous Peoples Day” we should use Jefferson’s phrase from the Declaration of Independence: Merciless Indian Savages Day.


11 posted on 10/16/2023 8:20:01 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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That’s why I wrote this book. To set some records straight.

Jesusweptanamericanstory.blogspot.com

Liz Warren should learn some history.
The 1835 Cherokee census recorded indians 8,946. Slaves 776. Acres under cultivation 19,216.


12 posted on 10/16/2023 8:20:04 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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18 posted on 10/16/2023 8:41:07 AM PDT by shotgun
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Stand Watie owned slaves.

That’s the Cherokee Confederate general, not the famous Freeper of the same name.


21 posted on 10/16/2023 9:05:35 AM PDT by x
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I cannot remember who said it, but if you follow someone long enough...you will see them do something illegal.

Columbus was a person of his times. Slavery has been a scourge on human existence since the first person lost a fight. American Indians could be savages.

All of these things are true. When you look at them in context—without the judgement or filter of our modern day morals—they all acted for a reason that was pretty much accepted for their cultures. Some are good, some are bad. Some we would encourage these days, and others we wouldn’t.

It’s called examining history. And the best way to do it is without using our “rose colored” glasses. I don’t think many historical figures could pass muster these days. Can we look at the actions, victories, and mistakes of our ancestors? Absolutely. But spending a lot of time getting angry about them is just silly.

The whole idea of history is to identify what folks did right or wrong and improve on it.


22 posted on 10/16/2023 9:09:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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Nor will you learn about freedmen slave owners
Fairly common in creole culture


24 posted on 10/16/2023 9:19:11 AM PDT by wardaddy (Civilization cannot tolerate what the world is becoming )
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enslaved blacks among the Creeks increased from 502 to 1,532

It's in my own lineage. I'm one of the "white" descendants; but there are plenty of black offspring, sired by a Creek slaveholder, who happened to be chief justice of the Creek nation, with my same, rarely-heard, last name, inhabiting E. OK and W. AR to this day.

27 posted on 10/16/2023 9:47:53 AM PDT by Migraine
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I think if anyone dug into it they would find the last slaves in America who were taken, and/or the last slaves in America who were freed, were white slaves of various Indian “nations”, it was still going on long after the Civil War.


28 posted on 10/16/2023 11:06:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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A while back a friend sent me an article from a 1925 Florida paper about some local indians. They claimed that the Emancipation Proclamation applied only to white people and therefore had an African slave woman who did their cooking, etc. They also said she was quite happy to be their slave.


29 posted on 10/17/2023 8:24:00 AM PDT by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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