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Credit card losses are rising at the fastest pace since the Great Financial Crisis
CNBC ^ | SEP 24 2023 | Michelle Fox

Posted on 10/03/2023 12:00:54 PM PDT by george76

Goldman Sachs predicts credit card losses will continue to climb through the end of 2024/early 2025.

What is unusual is that the losses are accelerating outside of an economic downturn, the firm said.

Credit card losses currently stand at 3.63%, up 1.5 percentage points from the bottom.

Credit card companies are racking up losses at the fastest pace in almost 30 years, outside of the Great Financial Crisis, according to Goldman Sachs.

Credit card losses bottomed in September 2021, and while initial increases were likely reversals from stimulus, they have been rapidly rising since the first quarter of 2022. Since that time, it’s an increasing rate of losses only seen in recent history during the recession of 2008.

It is far from over, the firm predicts.

Losses currently stand at 3.63%, up 1.5 percentage points from the bottom, and Goldman sees them rising another 1.3 percentage points to 4.93%. This comes at a time when Americans owe more than $1 trillion on credit cards, a record high, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

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What is unusual is that the losses are accelerating outside of an economic downturn...

Of the past five credit card loss cycles, three were characterized by recessions,

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History also shows that losses tend to peak six to eight quarters after loan growth peaks, he said. That implies the credit normalization cycle is only at its halfway point, hence the late 2024, early 2025 prediction

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: credit; creditcard; creditcardlosses; debt; economy; losses
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1 posted on 10/03/2023 12:00:54 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The US Goverment can lie all it wants about the state of the economy. They cannot lie about outcomes. Reality always wins in the end


2 posted on 10/03/2023 12:01:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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“outside of an economic downturn”

Out of touch-

What the hell is Bidenomics if not a continuous downturn?


3 posted on 10/03/2023 12:04:08 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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So, what do they mean by "credit card losses"?

Do they mean the CC companies gave credit to people who were "high-risk" and they defaulted?

The economy sucks, but shouldn't the CC companies adjust fire and tighten up who they give credit to?

4 posted on 10/03/2023 12:05:13 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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FTA: “What is unusual is that the losses are accelerating outside of an economic downturn, the firm said.”

This is so insanely stupid it’s beyond words. The economy is starting its third year of non-stop contraction.


5 posted on 10/03/2023 12:05:34 PM PDT by KamperKen (u)
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I was wondering where the Millies and Zero Geez were getting all their money. They come back from spring break and head off to Europe for the summer.


6 posted on 10/03/2023 12:06:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Prosecutors say Trump may have broken the law admiring gun in South Carolina" ROTFLMAO!)
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"What is unusual is that the losses are accelerating outside of an economic downturn, the firm said."

They are still kissing Dementia Joe's ass, I see.

7 posted on 10/03/2023 12:08:58 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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“What is unusual is that the losses are accelerating outside of an economic downturn, the firm said. “


So how big will the losses be when we get an “official” economic downturn ?


8 posted on 10/03/2023 12:11:43 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: george76

The best thing to do is quickly allow in 5 or 10 million more illegals. Instead of waiting for them to enter illegally, we could just fly cargo planes over and pick them up.


9 posted on 10/03/2023 12:12:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Don’t worry, it’s going to be just fine. Many years ago Joe Biden secured legislation making it almost impossible to go BK on credit card debt, it will be repaid.


10 posted on 10/03/2023 12:15:27 PM PDT by eyeamok
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11 posted on 10/03/2023 12:18:26 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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Not a surprise.
Families took vacation using plastic.
Paid for school shit using plastic.
Will buy Christmas presents using plastic.
In January '24 you will hear about a SKYROCKETING number of financial issues from Chp. 13 to foreclosures and repos.
12 posted on 10/03/2023 12:22:04 PM PDT by Paul46360 (What??ME worry?)
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To: Psalm 73

My guess is the government insists they give credit cards to certain protected people and the losses are related.


13 posted on 10/03/2023 12:40:51 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Psalm 73

They can’t because that would be too racist.


14 posted on 10/03/2023 12:42:31 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Paul46360

The other major change happening now is that the Millenials have to now start paying back their student loans again.
So, even more Starbucks Grande Latte will be charged on their VISA.


15 posted on 10/03/2023 12:42:37 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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Let’s see:

People won’t work.
People continue spending at unsustainable levels.
The savings rate shrinks.

It seems to me that Americans were on a post covid party, and now they’re beginning to find they are tapped out. Maxed out credit cards and no savings.

This was easy to see coming, I’m surprised it hasn’t happened sooner.


16 posted on 10/03/2023 12:46:07 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: Reverend Wright

Government statistics are lagging indicators.

By the time they admit there is a slowdown Wall Street folks will be throwing furniture at windows and jumping out of them.


17 posted on 10/03/2023 12:49:08 PM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: george76

WOW what a shock.. the econ sucks, and cnbc is trying to blow cover for joek

sure credit card defaults are on the rise. so the credit card company’s charge off the debit and the holders take a hit on their credit reports for 7 yrs. nothing new under the sun


18 posted on 10/03/2023 1:14:44 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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Might have already started.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/under-stress-wells-fargo-executive-jumped-to-his-death-from-top-of-delaware-offices-report/ar-AA1hwMfi


19 posted on 10/03/2023 1:16:54 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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When Black Friday comes
I stand down by the door
And catch the grey men when they
Dive from the fourteenth floor
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20 posted on 10/03/2023 1:46:20 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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