Posted on 10/02/2023 6:14:06 AM PDT by george76
Remember when Liz Cheney was going to have a "megaphone" after losing her primary in Wyoming? The idea was that her 40-point defeat would only elevate her, positioning her to speak loudly and forcefully against the supposed excesses of her own party. Cheney was going to protect "democracy" and be well-positioned for a 2024 presidential run.
Well, as usual, those bleating the loudest in the mainstream press were wrong because none of that happened. Instead, she has been heavily marginalized, likely because she's no longer useful to the Democratic Party.
I regret to inform you that Cheney is back, at least momentarily, and she's here to illustrate exactly why most Republicans can't stand her.
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Liz Cheney - Members of the House and Senate who are voting to deny Ukraine assistance on the 85th anniversary of Neville Chamberlain’s 1938 “peace in our time” speech should read some history: Appeasement didn’t work then. It won’t work now.
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It's just astonishing to me that someone like Cheney, whose direct policy initiatives have legitimately led to the slaughter of millions of people in Libya, Iraq, and Syria, can still pretend to hold some type of moral high ground. We are talking about a woman who, instead of opposing the bombing of Libya, pushed then-President Barack Obama to do even more. As a result, Libya is now hell on earth and the world's largest modern-day slave market.
The results in Syria were just as bad, with a pointless civil war supported by the United States killing well over half a million people, and not once has Cheney ever shown any regret. Do you know what you call someone who causes such suffering and death, yet shows no remorse? You call them a sociopath.
People like Cheney have no credibility to speak on anything, much less foreign policy. That they continue to try to do so, presenting themselves as lights in the darkness, is a level of arrogance that is hard to fathom. So while Cheney implores people to "read some history," I'd implore her to read her own history.
Regardless, there is no comparison between Nazi Germany's rise in 1938-1939, leading to overrunning of Europe, and modern-day Russia. Vladimir Putin is a dictator, and his invasion of Ukraine is a desperate ploy to consolidate power. That is detestable, but it does not make Russia a threat to rule the continent. NATO is as expansive today as it has ever been while Russia's military might is mostly smoke and mirrors, with the latter assertion more than proven by the last year-and-a-half of fighting.
Again, that doesn't mean that Russia hasn't caused carnage in Ukraine that deserves condemnation, but the mere presence of an unjustified war does not mean that a modern-day Nazi Germany is waiting in the wings to sweep into France. That kind of simpleton understanding of history is how you get the dumpster fire foreign policy that plagued the United States throughout the Bush and Obama terms.
Besides, who is trying to "appease" Russia? Did I miss something? Because I'm pretty sure the United States alone has spent well over $100 billion arming Ukraine. The result has been to degrade the Russian military and grind the conflict into a stalemate. It is perfectly reasonable to ask what happens next before committing even more money. That is not appeasement. It is basic governance.
In short, Cheney can take a seat. She can take all the seats. No one holds less credibility to speak on current affairs than she does. Heck, if she actually cared about Ukraine (she doesn't), she'd stop talking completely, because the mere opening of her mouth is going to do far more harm than good in building support.
How wrong, wrong, wrong and deceived could one have been to have ever voted for him even for the mostly ceremonial job of VP?
Mitigated only by the opposing choices in 2000 and 2004, mind you.
Back to the subject, yes, his daughter is made of the same stuff.
The Lizard is finished. It is OVER.
This is the way I feel about the majority of our Reps and Senators in DC. We voted them in with their promises to listen to us and represent what we the people want to see happen...but thy don’t. They go their own way and do what they want. They stopped listening the moment they entered the halls of government. The majority of people don’t want our tax dollars to go to Ukraine unchecked and without end. We don’t want the open borders and the invasion from foreigners. We don’t want our kids to be pushed into changing their bodies to try to look like the opposite sex. I could go on and on. But we don’t see the Republicans doing anything other the opposite of what we the people want. Vote them all out.
I actually think Dick was just repeating what Crazy Liz told him.
We know she is dishonest, was part of the fake Dossier team and actively spying for the RATS.
This is probably where the RATS got all their secret info during Obama and GWB.
“The Lizard is finished. It is OVER”
Maybe a fill in left wing commentator spot on CNN will become available for her.
Much as I abhorred Liz for her treatment of Trump, a stopped clock is right twice a day, and this is one of those times.
(Dons flameproof Nomex overalls and mask.)
War Whore.
Yep
Remember when Biden was able to strong-arm the Ukrainian government into getting rid of that prosecutor by threatening to withhold $1 billion in U.S. aid? He’s thrown so much money at Ukraine (our money, that is), that they wouldn’t even flinch if he made a similar threat today.
Moanin’ Joe on PMSNBC could use a new blonde sidekick. Mika is gettin’ up there.
I don’t beat myself up over it. They were the better choice. And Dick seemed like a stand-up guy. Fool me once...... Liz, she’s foolin’ no one now.
...and yet there are a number of Operatives here who support her, or at least her morbid ‘projects’.
So you think the current situation with Russia and Ukraine is somehow similar to Nazi Germany in 1938? Wow. Have you drained your bank account to support Ukraine, or do you prefer to use other people’s money, like most leftists and politicians?
“as if he knew something that we don’t know... know what I mean?”
Yeah, we get it. Exactly like when Pelosi said Biden would be in the White House. “You can take that to the bank.”
Correct me if I’m wrong but the only thing that witch is now is a Private Citizen. People should stop talking about what she says or does like she has some kind of public official’s authority. She’s about as relevant now as McCain’s wife or that daughter.
The one big difference between our situation vis-a-vis Ukraine and Britain’s situation in 1938 is that Britain HAD to placate Hitler. Britain had neglected to keep its’ military strength at a level where they COULD have used force to deter Hitler. Their Hurricanes and early Spitfires, for example, were still fitted with wooden fixed-pitch propellers, which put them at a tremendous disadvantage vs. the Me-109s with three-blade variable pitch props. This is not the situation today, and we thus have no reason to pretend that we must appease Putin, whose objectives ant pretenses in Ukraine are exactly the same as Hitler’s objectives vis-a-vis Czechoslovakia.
Cheney.....Halliburton......Russia.....feed the bear!
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/sep/17/russia-trade-halliburton-equipment-export-us-oil
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