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1 posted on 09/13/2023 6:03:03 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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With all the Ukrainian victories you’d think the proxy war would be over by now.


2 posted on 09/13/2023 6:06:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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They both suffered losses:

Russia Says Destroys Three Ukrainian Naval Drones

7 posted on 09/13/2023 6:21:32 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Ukraine is winning again — the media told me so. /sarc


9 posted on 09/13/2023 6:24:20 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Enrique Tarrio? “Remember the prisoners as if chained with them – those who are mistreated…” Hebrew)
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Unfortunately for the Ukraine, this is not a sea war.


11 posted on 09/13/2023 6:27:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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The top comment at the Newsweek comment was “We’re reaching a turning point where dedicated warships are becoming wastes of money and resources.

As drones become cheaper, more precise, and more advanced, large and expensive targets become vulnerable to swarm tactics. That 30 million dollar cruiser can be sunk by a drone for a hundredth of the cost and a thousandth of the manufacturing time. I wouldn’t be shocked if, by the end of the century, the world’s navies re-orient themselves to mostly consist of cheap drone carrier ships.

The ironclad replaced sailing ships. Battleships replaced ironclads. Carriers and missile cruisers replaced battleships. Now it looks like carriers and missile cruisers are on their way out.”

I agree with this comment, but we are fools if we think Russia will be the only one to ever realize this new truth. My guess is that USA relies on imports via ship 5x to 10X compared to Russia based on our geographic positioning.

We currently rely on having everything from petroleum to vaccines imported from overseas. If there were a war between USA and any modern enemy, USA will most likely be waving a white flag within a few weeks as not only would our navy would be lying at the bottom of the ocean, but also would all the ships that transport to USA. Well, maybe not the transport ships, as those all belong to China.


13 posted on 09/13/2023 6:31:20 PM PDT by MNDude
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I’ll be waiting for pics of burned out ships and damaged submarines. Until then, this is more of the same old crap. Bold claims followed by the next set of bold claims. Last week, “Robotino has fallen, the road to Crimea is wide open”. This week Zelensky admits on CNN that the counteroffensive failed. One thing for certain, many Uke citizens and soldiers will die during the Russian retaliation. As in every one of these instances, the butcher’s bill for the poor Ukrainian people will far outweigh the trivial damage these Uke attacks cause.


16 posted on 09/13/2023 6:33:31 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Summary: damage to two ships that were docked under repair.

Operational effect: none
Tactical advantage: TBD
Strategic value: N/A
Cost: 10 British Storm Shadow cruise missiles and sea surface drones


18 posted on 09/13/2023 6:39:43 PM PDT by CapandBall
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27 posted on 09/13/2023 6:53:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Cruise missiles striking submarines is a major escalation. The next escalation is nuclear in nature.

I'm going to miss electricity.

49 posted on 09/13/2023 7:55:31 PM PDT by The Duke
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If Ukraine were to win this war it would be a pyrrhic victory. The country is already screwed.


59 posted on 09/13/2023 8:16:55 PM PDT by ClaytonForester
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Newsweek?
Please excuse me if I take this with a grain of salt.
Oh I trust them, but would like verification.


63 posted on 09/13/2023 8:37:02 PM PDT by Tupelo ( e pluribus unum is now ex uno multis)
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“All missiles were shot down”
Reporter: “Then why is everything on fire?”
“Because you are not in prison for noticing that”


78 posted on 09/14/2023 4:46:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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Globalist Spam.


85 posted on 09/14/2023 11:07:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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