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How Trump is outfoxing Murdoch’s ‘news channel’ by snubbing Republican debate
Boston Herald ^ | August 19, 2023 | Howie Carr

Posted on 08/20/2023 6:34:11 AM PDT by billorites

Fox News Channel is now the Bud Light of cable television.

Donald Trump ruined their phony-baloney debate with his announcement Friday afternoon that instead of going to Milwaukee, he may be doing a one-on-one sit-down Wednesday night with Tucker Carlson.

Think about how that’s going to play out.

Fox’s bid to escape its post-Tucker ratings plunge is now wrecked. Instead, it becomes a vice presidential debate, a sour-grapes hiss-fest, Paul Ryan’s worst nightmare.

And Fox & Friends can’t even discuss it, because then they would have to mention the other T word — Tucker. And that cardinal sin gets even members of Congress banned from any future guest appearances.

How embarrassing is the Trump-Tucker online interview going to be for Fox?

Well, in August 2015, at this same point in the election cycle, Fox ran a GOP debate featuring Donald Trump and got an audience of 24 million.

In January 2016, just before the Iowa caucuses, Trump became irritated with Fox over what he called “a wise-guy press release.”

“I said ‘Bye bye,’” he told reporters. “Fox is playing games. They can’t toy with me like they toy with everybody else. Let them have their debate. Let’s see how they do with the ratings.”

Minus Trump, Fox got 12.4 million viewers — half as many as with Orange Man. I predict the falloff will be greater next week.

Trump’s decision is also a major blow to the Republican National Committee, which has been fundraising off Trump since he came down the escalator on Fifth Avenue in 2015. It’s the RNC’s little debate he’s blowing off — it was a co-production of the two leading RINO-Uniparty-GOPe-Soros Light outfits, Fox and the RNC.

The RNC is run by Willard Mitt Romney’s niece, Ronna McDaniel. For some reason, Trump has always tolerated Ronna, despite the string of electoral disasters she’s presided over.

But then, right after shoving Fox and the RNC under the bus, Trump’s campaign issued a new statement Friday afternoon.

“Team Trump Unveils New ‘Seal of Approval’ to Protect Loyal Donors from Scammers.”

It’s an attempt to put the flim-flam artists who raise millions off the MAGA brand on notice. It’s bad enough that fake Republicans can get rich claiming to fight Trump — for example, the Lincoln Project and all the RINO’s on state-run media.

But there’s also a different class of con artists — Republican phonies who have publicly reviled Trump yet now try to leech off his loyal followers.

To that point locally, on Friday it was announced that the 2024 Trump campaign chairman in Massachusetts would be former Bristol County sheriff Tom Hodgson, a longtime loyalist.

Hodgson, a MAGA guy from day one, was picked over crackpot former state GOP chairman Jim “Jones” Lyons. Lyons desperately wishes to reclaim his old state-party job (and $100,000 salary), so he can finish off the total demolition of the local GOP that he began in 2019.

The problem was, Lyons was a rabid anti-Trumper in 2016. He was a Ted Cruz delegate to the national convention. During the primary campaign that year, Lyons ran Massachusetts for Cruz, about as successfully as he’s run every other campaign of his, which is to say, he lost in a landslide.

Since then, though, Jim “Jones” Lyons has been promoting himself, chameleon-like, as a Trumpster. It’s what political grifters do. It’s no fun being unemployed, especially with the spigot of PPP funds cut off and you’re being sued by UPS.

Massachusetts of course no longer matters much in national Republican politics (thanks largely to Lyons’ incompetence and perfidy).

Nonetheless, Trump’s people made the effort to sniff out the duplicitous take-over ploy by Lyons and his equally hapless loser stooges, Geoff “DoorDash” Diehl and DoorDash’s patron, Rick Green.

Green, by the way, may have even worse political instincts than his two destitute pals, Lyons and Diehl. In 2016 he swooned over John Kasich. This year Green has a case of puppy love over Ron DeSantis. Of course, he thought Diehl was going to win the governorship last year too.

These are the type of conniving political parasites Trump must keep at arm’s length, in all 50 states. And that’s why his sharp elbow to Fox and the RNC was such a good start.

I even liked that he leaked the story to the New York Times. Despite everything rotten she’s written about him over the years, Trump has always favored Maggie Haberman (she used to work for Murdoch). And so he gave Maggie another scoop.

Strange as it is to say, Trump usually gets a fairer shake in the Times than in the Washington Post, which has printed even more fake news stories about him than the Old Gray Lady.

As for Fox, I suppose Trump could still change his mind and show up in the Beer City.

But if not, does Fox go from here? Like Transheuser Busch, they’ve run off their own base.

Maybe it’s time for Fox to come out of the closet, as it were, and just officially admit that they are just another organ of state-run media.

Then Paul Ryan et al. could go the full Target route, and declare Fox Pride Month. Bring back Shep Smith and Judge Andrew Napolitano. Stream all this year’s failed Disney movies on Fox Nation.

Fox could tell Chris Wallace and Geraldo Rivera to come back — all is forgiven, comrades. It’s too late to bring back Megyn Kelly. She and Trump have kissed and made up. They’re pals again.

Tubby Karl Rove would salute his employer’s evolution and growth. Axios and the Atlantic would discover strange new respect for Fox’s careerist anchors. The Murdochs could keep sticking pins in their Tucker Carlson voodoo dolls.

And Fox’s ratings would fall even further into the toilet behind MSNBC.

I can’t wait to see the overnight debate ratings when they come out Thursday.

It would take a heart of stone not to laugh.


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KEYWORDS: foxnews; foxnewsaftertucker; trump; tuckercarlson
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1 posted on 08/20/2023 6:34:11 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

If Jesse Watters wrote some questions for Bret Baier rather than ‘DNC News Packets via CIA ‘Leaks” then the debate might have merit. But he won’t. It’ll be one more debate with a democrat moderator and ‘intelligence’ sourced questions.


2 posted on 08/20/2023 6:39:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hunter Biden’s pet name for his father on his cellphone. It was “Pedo Peter”. Jim Hoft )
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To: billorites

The ratings would fall even more if he turned himself in to be booked in Fulton County DURING the debates. EVERY debate viewer would switch over to Trump. Too funny!


3 posted on 08/20/2023 6:42:42 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: billorites

Trump is sending the Murdochs a needed message that they are dispensible; but the debates may help to smoke-out the views and talents of the lower tier candidates.


4 posted on 08/20/2023 6:42:52 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: billorites

They constantly misunderestimate Trump.


5 posted on 08/20/2023 6:43:14 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: GOPJ

I have shoelaces on my loafers to iron that night.


6 posted on 08/20/2023 6:45:10 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: billorites

“Fox News Channel is now the Bud Light of cable television.”

That is one of the greatest titles in our lifetime.


7 posted on 08/20/2023 6:45:24 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: billorites

I skimmed through this but it seems fairly well written.


8 posted on 08/20/2023 6:48:15 AM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: billorites

Genius move by Trump. With any luck there will be a shake up in Fox management and rat faced Paul Ryan gets thrown overboard.


9 posted on 08/20/2023 6:48:17 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: billorites

1. Don’t care for the can’t-i-dates. No leg tingle at all.

2. Don’t care what is on faux-snooze since the boned Tucker

3. I may schedule a root canal for Wed night so I don’t accidently see any of it.

4. We can get a quick recap on Thursday of the high(?) points


10 posted on 08/20/2023 6:50:11 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: billorites

Simultaneously snubbing the Republican debate and Fox News is one of Trump’s greatest political moves ever IMO. A beautiful double whammy.

I won’t bother watching this useless RINO charade.


11 posted on 08/20/2023 6:58:17 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: billorites

Rupert Murdoch is not a friend of USA Conservatives.

Below is a message I sent to my family and friends reminding them of who Murdoch is:

“””Rupert Murdoch owns FOX NEWS, NEW YORK POST, and WALL STREET JOURNAL.

Rupert Murdoch is a leader in the political camp “TO GET RID OF TRUMP”.

Keep that in mind when you hear a conservative Republican tell you that they regularly listen or read FOX NEWS, NEW YORK POST, or WALL STREET JOURNAL. Too many people are being misled by Murdoch’s news organizations.”””


12 posted on 08/20/2023 7:10:00 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Shady

That’s a good one. 😂


13 posted on 08/20/2023 7:11:41 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: billorites
Trump’s decision is also a major blow to the Republican National Committee, which has been fundraising off Trump since he came down the escalator on Fifth Avenue in 2015.

Typical RNC, begging for money from MAGA nation while laughing sneerily at us rubes, and all with the intent of sandbagging Trump. No thanks.

14 posted on 08/20/2023 7:13:57 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: billorites
But there’s also a different class of con artists — Republican phonies who have publicly reviled Trump yet now try to leech off his loyal followers.

***********

Wonder if DeSantis will be asked about his "listless vessels" remark?

15 posted on 08/20/2023 7:14:32 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: billorites

This certainly serves Fox right. I watch it little anymore, but still have it on in the morning during my shower with the sound turned off, so I can SEE what the overnight news might be. Lately, Fox seems to nothing but hype for the debate. They actually have had a countdown of the days before the debate.

I’ll watch Tucker, thank you.


16 posted on 08/20/2023 7:19:24 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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To: billorites

How about Trump booking Lambeau Field (Packers stadium) for a rally at same time & televising it live????


17 posted on 08/20/2023 7:25:12 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ArtDodger

I would hope Trump would reach out to Glen Beck for an Interview or Ben Shapiro.


18 posted on 08/20/2023 7:30:53 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: DeplorablePaul

I would love to see Tump hit LawTube with some hard hitting legal questions. Joe Nierman, Nick Rekieta, Nate the Lawyer, Peter Tragos,Just a few questions will spark the justice minded subscribers


19 posted on 08/20/2023 7:39:48 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: billorites
Anyone know if you have to sign up at Twitter/X to watch this?

I've avoided that trap for 15 years. Hate to break that streak now.

20 posted on 08/20/2023 7:41:25 AM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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